"Coming into its own" is too much!

[Ziegsy]

day 1 atma is way easier than this

due to the RNG nature of the atma when it was launched it took me 6 MONTHS of fate grinding, playing for about 5-9 hours EVERY DAY before I got all of the atmas required.

a month of doing my roulette's? My beast tribe dailies now have incentives? Id rather grind three of these new relics than go through that atma grind again.

[VirusChris]

due to the RNG nature of the atma when it was launched it took me 6 MONTHS of fate grinding, playing for about 5-9 hours EVERY DAY before I got all of the atmas required.

a month of doing my roulette's? My beast tribe dailies now have incentives? Id rather grind three of these new relics than go through that atma grind again.

Oh... sorry to hear that man. I got all 12 ATMA in a month, but RNG is RNG and I wish they went about it differently and I hated the fact your weapon didn't EVEN get stronger and on top of it you lost the glow to it. That's wrong...

its either going to be a grind, or locked behind savage. And its not even that time consuming, I have a 240, 3rd of the way to 2nd 240, another 230, and halfway to a 4th 210, just doing weeklies and dailies. Original Atma, light farming, the zodiak step, were all much worse than any of these.

Let's agree to disagree... I much prefer the old Zodiac line (pre-nerf) compared to the Anima line currently. At least I did a load of other things instead of redoing AFC over until my mind goes numb. It wasn't engaging or fun like Zodiac was even if it was annoying at times.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Let's agree to disagree... I much prefer the old Zodiac line (pre-nerf) compared to the Anima line currently. At least I did a load of other things instead of redoing AFC over until my mind goes numb. It wasn't engaging or fun like Zodiac was even if it was annoying at times.

Why are you doing ARF over and over then? I mean, thats on you, I'm just playing normally. Sounds like you are making the relic step not fun. Tho I have to say, doing Sastasha HM 37 times wasnt exactly fun. or Darkhold. Ya know its like the exact same thing!

[Hasasmo]

Savage Midas is too hard!
Many people can't login and raid for hours, let alone do that kind of progression everyday.
The mechanics you're required to memorize are way over the top, It takes forever to learn them. We need to clear 4 difficult instances every week for a chance at receiving our weapon or 8 midas manifesto, the difficulty should be halved at least.
Not all players can raid everyday and do this progression.
The next chapter of Alexander will be there in 3.4 as well so it would be really great if this raid gets some premature balancing.
Thank you!

Oh, excuse me but not all people are like you who have no life and nothing to do.
Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.

[Trixxy]

Besides that, being able to farm up Oils for the next step and spending leves on getting amber-encased vilekins gives you a headstart for the following upgrades.

[CienFleur]

Oh, excuse me but not all people are like you who have no life and nothing to do.
Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.

That quote.... 'Kneels Respectively' Yes just Yes exactly

[Dement]

Oh, excuse me but not all people are like you who have no life and nothing to do.
Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.

If you are just doing your Daily Roulettes because that's all you have time for, then what exactly do you need a 230 relic weapon for? Those instances were meant to be cleared in like ilvl 200 gear. If you don't need it, then just do it casually. Also you may want to look into other methods of obtaining the items. Gather and do a daily map for a random drop chance or buy a bunch of maps if you have extra gil. Do hunts for esoterics, poetics, and allied seals all which can buy unidentifiable items. Do daily beast tribes. I believe they upped the amount of reputation they give and it used to only take 20 days to get from 0 reputation up to a point where you can get the items for unidentifiables and that's for two different ARR beast tribes.

[Iromi]

Oh, excuse me but not all people are like you who have no life and nothing to do.
Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.

Hm. I am an actress (line memorizing, filming etc.) BF is a full time student at nyu tandon. we both have multiple finished relics. By no means do we have "no life"

We also have done the raids. Doing stuff in game does not require you to live on the game...you just need better time management skills lol. Why play a MMORPG if you "barely have time to do daily roulettes"? Serious question. I would never touch a game or anything if my time was -that- limited..let alone a MMORPG.

[DevilsDontFly]

Please keep in mind that while:

Many of us barely have time to do the Daily Roulettes.

The majority of us have. On the long run they shouldn't nerf it as a whole for the sake of a very, very, very, very small percentage of players that "barely have time to do the daily roulettes". If you can't play 2 hours a day regardless of the day (including the weekend), doing one of the most grindy optional quests in the game might not be aimed at you.

And please, don't assume people that can achieve something you can't have no life or nothing to do; everyone has their own routine and daily struggles. The fact you got time to make this thread makes you a "no life" just like me and everyone else here.