"Coming into its own" is too much!

[Deceptistar]

wow... looks like people want the best gear just handed to them in a day or two nowadays.

the hell is wrong w them.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I think it's been well established that this really isn't about wanting handouts for having less time, but wanting to feel like or know your time is well spent. Which it isn't.

Your time is being used to maintain SE's bottomline; to ensure that people can still freely run Alexander:Gordias, or the Crystal Tower raids, or older/aging content. Your time is being recycled back into what you ran to the point you were sick of it months ago. Your time is no longer being spent raising yourself up to meet new challenges, or even old ones, but instead finding the "easy" routes to gain large numbers of items only relevant to one thing.

The relic is effectively the handout. You just have to dance on the strings and pretend everything's fine and worth your time for it.

[Rhyku]

Or SE could just pull a Perfect World Int and just put everything into mogstation.
Don't want to work for it? Then spill your cash for it! /shudder

I pray we'll never ever see this sort of thing happening.

[CGMidlander]

It used to be easier when people still farmed Gordias. But since that isn't the case anymore, I agree that it should have some direct nerfs.

[starLivitation]

to the OP, there is something that some of you missed, you dont need to get any tomes actually or do much dungens at all, at least i didn't and i got 2 relic done to i230.

All what i did was mostly beastribe quests dailies, took about 1 hour per day. i mean the old beastribes + new ones, combined. that gave me all the tokens. i did my daily expert roulets to cap lore. it took a good month or 2 but it was very easy and effortless to do

and about the crafted items, i do them for people and i dont charge more than 300k for the whole set of 32 items, if they provided the materials. takes about 1 hour to craft all the items if materials are ready. if you on odin just msg me i will craft them for you. they are extremly easy to craft now days.

[AsahinaMyLove]

It took me a halve year to get all 4x 20 items o_O
I didnt do Tribe quests for that dumb relic, more for the red materias I needed for penta melds xD

But when I was halve way done, I said, why not going further till the end? o_o

[CookieMonsta]

It took me a halve year to get all 4x 20 items o_O
I didnt do Tribe quests for that dumb relic, more for the red materias I needed for penta melds xD

But when I was halve way done, I said, why not going further till the end? o_o

I grinded something like 400 alex normal runs, I am never repeating that again, it was total BS.

[Kotemon]

Between when this was added and now I just finished my first 80/80 set and bought the 4x4 's off the AH yesterday. Although it was probably a good thing I did the crystal tower weekly a few times. There's more options to farm for Eso to buy two Ore or Seeds a week at least. Its a little faster than the beast tribe dailies. Moogles give two kuponuts so, with that and another HW tribe. You can then just farm Amalj'aa and Shagin and stock pile tokens for shells and bones. Then do Crystal Tower raids or level 50's for Poetics and Oils.

Casually doing it will take a long while but it will take you from i200 to i230 in one go since you can save up for everything on the way.. Leaving the farming for crystals and sand to get to i240.. Honestly I think its easier to buy large quantities of moonstones with Company notes if you don't already do Blue and red script farming for that phase. Either way its not hard to get 1300~1400 Eso a week. Just do the Lv 50 daily as a tank and the four beast tribes on a lv 60. Then raid or two over the weekend with Burden of the son. So you can casual a i230 Ekion weapon in the meantime.