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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I really hate when people as for "more interesting stats", that tells the devs absolutely nothing, tell exactly what you want so they know what you want.
    I'd love to do their work for them but you know I'm not getting paid to do it I pay them to. Neither am I creative enough or have I chosen to go into a creative field of work xD

    This is like saying every suggestion has to be conceptualised in full so SE can just copy it and put it into the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    I'd love to do their work for them but you know I'm not getting paid to do it I pay them to. Neither am I creative enough or have I chosen to go into a creative field of work xD

    This is like saying every suggestion has to be conceptualised in full so SE can just copy it and put it into the game.
    If you don't know what you want how do you expect them to know what you want? People here can't even define what they mean by "more interesting stats", I'm not asking you to do their job, I'm asking you to be less vague in saying what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    If you don't know what you want how do you expect them to know what you want? People here can't even define what they mean by "more interesting stats", I'm not asking you to do their job, I'm asking you to be less vague in saying what you want.
    There has been multiple great suggestions on how this can work in this massive thread - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...killed-players

    How about you go over them instead of insisting that no-one has suggested anything?

    Things like -

    %chance to restore 200 TP upon [physical damage AoE skill] use
    Healing potency increased if motionless for 5 seconds
    Movement speed increased by 15%
    Immune to knockback (CD 20 seconds)

    etc.

    Would make things pretty neat imo and this is coming from someone who was being really pig headed about "not wanting changes" lol
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    I'm not saying no one has suggested anything, I'm saying no one should use "interesting stats" without it being accompanied by an example of what exactly they want.

    Also those sound more like gear effects than new secondary stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I'm not saying no one has suggested anything, I'm saying no one should use "interesting stats" without it being accompanied by an example of what exactly they want.

    Also those sound more like gear effects than new secondary stats.
    True that's my own confusion (I'm a dope sometimes) but effects aswell as actual stat changes would be welcome additons imo.

    I mean they could change accuracy to something different. It could be like WoW's mastery I suppose with varying effects per job and you could choose to build into it or not depending on your preference. I think this was suggested in that thread I linked I'll see if I can find the quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenlyArmed View Post
    Moving forward on the more interesting stat issue, there's a reason it's important to start discussing this now. In a recent interview, Yoshi-p clearly said that the team is considering removing the accuracy stat due to a number of very obvious issues it has. While this wouldn't be happening any earlier than 4.0, it's important for us ass players to talk about as it means there's room for another stat to be added to gear as a standard secondary stat. What stat might they add? Well, in my opinion this is one place where it really is best to look at WoW. I speak of the Mastery stat, a stat that affects each class differently that exists on general gear, and has some sort of effect that may adjust how you play. I think a stat like this would be absolutely perfect for FFXIV, as it would solve the issue of gear being boring that many people complain about, and do so in a way that is accessible due to being a standard stat on gear. How would I have it work? Add new traits for it to affect on each job, such as a trait for DRG where the more mastery you have the less time using a Gierskogul removes from your Blood of the Dragon, or one for BLM where you have a very very small chance to proc Firestarter with a Fire IV, and with more of this stat that chance increases. And the ideas could continue flowing for each different job. In my opinion, if accuracy does get removed from the game in 4.0, this would be the ideal stat to replace it with.
    Here it is.

    100% credit to HeavenlyArmed for being a genius for saying this and making this amazing poll.
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 06-20-2016 at 11:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I'm not saying no one has suggested anything, I'm saying no one should use "interesting stats" without it being accompanied by an example of what exactly they want.

    Also those sound more like gear effects than new secondary stats.
    That's why accompanying this survey is a post that actually explains examples of what I mean when I say interesting stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenlyArmed View Post
    That's why accompanying this survey is a post that actually explains examples of what I mean when I say interesting stats.
    Woo! I can't wait to see it xD
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    I think the game is great. The main issue I have is with the players. Not enough people on my data center play pvp, causing very long queues for frontlines. Too many people use third-party apps to get any unfair advantage (bot-driven farming, speed hack, position hack, hunt target notifications) and buying gil from RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Woo! I can't wait to see it xD
    Psst, I'm referring to the post I link to from back in the first thread, the really long one on page 7 that you've quoted a part of here already. Thank you though!
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    As far as I'm concerned, it needs more grinds.
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