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    Alienation of Dedicated and Skilled players: Discussing Change to FFXIV

    With the way that FFXIV has been progressing, it seems as though the Development team has no plans to make the game have more depth other than being a game people log into for a couple hours here and there to do arbitrary tasks. I know a decent number of players who have quit stating they will not return until the team drops this dumb vertical progression and adds more interesting stats that alter gameplay.

    Players such as myself feel alienated in this game because it no longer rewards longtime players for pouring hours into it. Instead we get little to no reward for doing so, the gameplay remains formulaic and shallow, and the vast majority of the community turns a blind eye towards these factors and instead looks towards the Colosseum spectacles of housing and glamours. I understand that such things can be fun for a while but Glamour serves a very blatant and superficial purpose.

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    Late edit: It seems like a lot of people think I meant specifically horizontal progression when I said this. That's not the case. up until this edit I don't believe I even once directly mentioned it or referenced it. From what I wrote, I was talking about just adding more interesting status' and types of content to the game rather than the same ol' same ol'.
    Again... more interesting stat diversity+different more varied types of content to get items etc =/= Me specifically wanting horizontal progression.
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    Last edited by Caelum_Dragguell; 06-21-2016 at 02:22 AM. Reason: disclaimer

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    MMO's are meant to reward time and effort and skill put into the world. As a passionate longtime player of this game (since beta's) I really want to love the game in its current state but I can't. It's turning into a game more focused on Dress up simulation rather than an immersive world that rewards time and effort.

    TL;DR We need a change to Itemization, gameplay mechanics, and difficulty. We're burnt out and screaming on the inside. Please listen to the voice of the other half
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    Not really sure of the point I'm supposed to take from this...

    If you're burnt out play something else for a bit. No-one is forcing you to log in.
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 06-18-2016 at 03:40 AM.

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    On another note it's gotten so bad as to make me play FFXI as I view it to have way more depth than FFXIV in its current state. For those who have played FFXI I'm sure many of you understand how I'm feeling at this stage and I hope you will help the development team see they need a change
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    Glamour is the true endgame for me and probably the only thing next to the story that keeps me playing this game.

    Overcoming difficult parts of a game is not the only way to have fun just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Not really sure of the point I'm supposed to take from this...

    If you're burnt out play something else for a bit. No-one is forcing you to log in.
    He is looking for more horizontal progression.

    For example gear sets with set bonuses that puts emphasis on certain skills, enhancing them so you build around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    He is looking for more horizontal progression.

    For example gear sets with set bonuses that puts emphasis on certain skills, enhancing them so you build around them.
    No. He wants the developers to make him feel special for pouring "hours into it".
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    just adjust your mentality a little. spending that much time in FF14 isn't that good for your left style anyway.

    go PVP and get the mounts or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    I kinda get where you're coming from when I consider running Mhach City 15 times has not rewarded me with a caster body drop even once. 30 hours of my life wasted with no reward. And it's my second week in and it still hasn't dropped.

    I must agree though that we need more then these cookie cutter stats that only buff your main attack stat or have very menial reduction on the GCD.

    Don't even have stats to buff up your defense more.
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