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    TallonOverworld's Avatar
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    i220 Pentameld VS i240 accessories for Tank

    Seriously, what is better?

    I managed to pentameld i220 neck/ears with crit IV and both i220 rings with det IV.
    Gil is not a matter for me but i am confused of what is better between them and lore accessories. Dps is a lot higher after parcing with this gear than with lore accessories but still that Vit bonus?

    /discuss
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    Last edited by TallonOverworld; 06-20-2016 at 03:44 PM.

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    Player Brian_'s Avatar
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    As a preface, loosely similar to how things were before the changes to STR and VIT, what right sides you choose to use depends on what type of content you are doing, what the HP thresholds are for said content, and how competent you and your healers are.

    As a baseline, the HQ eikon fending rings melded with 1 STR V and 4x SkS IV (you want SkS IV because it's +9 vs. Det IV's +6) is BiS for WARs. If you have the money to do V overmelds (where Det is better than SkS because both Vs give +12), then the gap only gets bigger. They're better than the midan and augmented lore fending rings. But, you are sacrificing a bit of HP when you use them.

    For the necklace, the midan fending necklace is BiS when considering overall balance.

    For the earrings and the bracelet, you basically have 2 choices that are basically the same.

    The first set up is the HQ eikon slaying earring melded with Vit V, 1 Crit IV (or ideally V), and 3 SkS IV paired with the augmented lore fending bracelet.

    The second set up is the augmented lore fending earring paired wit the augmented lore slaying bracelet.

    With either set-up, you will be right at the ACC cap for A8S with BiS left sides and food with ~27000 HP and the highest overall stat weighting.

    If you are not comfortable with that amount of HP (which is already overkill for everything but A8S) then just swap a few pieces back to the default fending BiS (midan fending necklace, augmented lore fending earrings, augmented lore fending bracelet, augment lore + midan fending rings).
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    It's not really worth the min/maxing.
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    My mistake in topic.

    Since i dont plan to do any AS, i240 right side refers to i220 pentameld vs i240 lore accessories.

    Also, sks IV is better than det IV? I have already achieved 9 attacks during berserk window with my current sks (~550) so i thought melding more sks would be a waste... My confusion is based on whether melding i220 IVs prove to be better than just getting more Vit.
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    Player Brian_'s Avatar
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    I said in my post why you meld SkS IVs. Det has a slightly higher stat weight than SkS even though Det doesn't scale as well. Still, per point value, Det is worth more. The problem is Det IV materia only give +6 Det. With an SkS IV materia, you get +9 SkS. So, even if Det has a higher per point value, you get 3 more points of SkS for the same meld. And, because you won't hit the melding cap with 4 Sks IV melds, you get to take full advantage of the difference.

    But, as Kori said, the difference is really tiny.

    SkS has extended benefits for WAR outside of hitting the 9 GCD window for Berserk. TP is not an issue for WAR because of 0 TP cost GCD skills every 7-8 GCDs and Equilibrium. Also, with shorter GCDs, you build stacks faster. There is also no anti-synergy with their buff alignments or dot clipping -- you actually gain flexibility with some of your debuff upkeep with higher SkS.

    I guess pertaining to your clarification, if you only have access to lore right sides then yea, many of the HQ i220 eikon fending / slaying right sides are better when melded. If you aren't doing Savage, then the extra HP really doesn't have much value. In fact, this degree of min-maxing is entirely unnecessary if you aren't raiding.
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