Server rules for different player demographics

[Rowyne]

Usually I would agree that we should have PvP, PvE, RP and PvP-RP servers.

However, the style of PvP that will be implemented in this game will not involve PKing. And that's usually the main reason to ever designate PvP servers (playing in an open PvP environment versus PvE servers, where you must flag yourself PvP). But if Yoshi-P ever changes his stance on this, it would be imperative to only make PKing happen on PvP servers.

I would love to see RP servers, but the FFXIV Role-Playing Coalition has already gathered most of the RP community in one place, and designated Besaid the unofficial RP server. I'd be fine with RP servers, as long as Besaid was named one of them.

[ellohwell]

Usually I would agree that we should have PvP, PvE, RP and PvP-RP servers.

However, the style of PvP that will be implemented in this game will not involve PKing. And that's usually the main reason to ever designate PvP servers (playing in an open PvP environment versus PvE servers, where you must flag yourself PvP). But if Yoshi-P ever changes his stance on this, it would be imperative to only make PKing happen on PvP servers.

I would love to see RP servers, but the FFXIV Role-Playing Coalition has already gathered most of the RP community in one place, and designated Besaid the unofficial RP server. I'd be fine with RP servers, as long as Besaid was named one of them.

That's somewhat circuitous logic though. If there was a PvP server, then there WOULD BE PKing. So saying there is no PKing and therefore no purpose for a PvP server is a logical fallacy.

Anyways, the reason I made this thread/suggestion is because I have noticed a call for certain things such as Traditional style FFXIV and also a Hardcore (more grindy game) so figured an obvious solution would be to divide the servers into tailored rulesets.

To say that this would burden the ENTIRE DEV TEAM is a stretch considering they already have the coding for most of the stuff i suggested (beside the PvP server).

[Answa]

That's somewhat circuitous logic though. If there was a PvP server, then there WOULD BE PKing. So saying there is no PKing and therefore no purpose for a PvP server is a logical fallacy.

Anyways, the reason I made this thread/suggestion is because I have noticed a call for certain things such as Traditional style FFXIV and also a Hardcore (more grindy game) so figured an obvious solution would be to divide the servers into tailored rulesets.

To say that this would burden the ENTIRE DEV TEAM is a stretch considering they already have the coding for most of the stuff i suggested (beside the PvP server).

How about this? If you don't like the game and its current rulesets, uninstall it. And leave.

k?

[ellohwell]

How about this? If you don't like the game and its current rulesets, uninstall it. And leave.

k?

Why didnt YOU leave before you encouraged SE to make bad changes?

It's pretty hypocritical to tell me to leave when in fact youre the one that should have taken your own advice

[Bearforce]

How about this? If you don't like the game and its current rulesets, uninstall it. And leave.

k?

[Answa]

Why didnt YOU leave before you encouraged SE to make bad changes?

It's pretty hypocritical to tell me to leave when in fact youre the one that should have taken your own advice

I love how you assume I encouraged anything from anyone before there were any changes. I hardly played from release to 1.18. When 1.18 came out, I started playing a lot again. When 1.19 came around, I played more. So far, no bad ideas in my eyes. So... how am I a hypocrite? Oh, right. I'm not.

*points at the door* Go ahead.

[irongripz]

I love how you assume I encouraged anything from anyone before there were any changes. I hardly played from release to 1.18. When 1.18 came out, I started playing a lot again. When 1.19 came around, I played more. So far, no bad ideas in my eyes. So... how am I a hypocrite? Oh, right. I'm not.

*points at the door* Go ahead.

after you, ladies first.

[Answa]

after you, ladies first.

Witty. Very witty.

my house is in rebuilding stage. this house is very small and in unpopular area.
the roof, floors, plumbing, and gas are all broke.
my landlord fired the original crew. for not completing the job on time
the new crew comes in and makes all kinds of promises, and shows me pics.
now for next year i have to wait for them to finish the job.
should I move to a more popular, bigger house rent it for same price?
or stay in the part of my house that is not being rebuilt. but still pay same rent as others.

I say go with option a.