Server rules for different player demographics

[Answa]

No offence but changing EXP rate/EXP cap isnt hard. It's just changing a freaking number. Use your brain.

Again, they already had a working Optimal Rank/Favoured System, so they already have the code for that. Honestly, you underestimate the human mind if you think it would be hard to keep a minimum of two alternate servers up with these two different rulesets.

I don't understimate your brain.

Everything affects overall balance. SE has always handled balance overall in a very particular way. You're asking a rightie to start writing with his left hand.

Or trying to turn a gay guy straight.

Pick an analogy, I don't care.

Follow Belial's advice. Please. Seriously.

[DantesAmore]

hey while we are at it why not just make 12 different versions of FFXIV and just have people buy the one they want? our a moron OP... play the game or Dont plain and simple. No one says you HAVE to participate in everything least they let us participate in everything on 1 character rather then have to make 3-4 characters to experience the whole game >.>

[Belial]

I wish people here didnt ruin FFXIV by ruining the Optimal Rank system etc... maybe you should have taken your own advice, with all due respect.

Why? I'm the one over here enjoying things.

Coincidentally, I'm also a fortune teller.

*flips card*

Your future looks bleak.

*flips card*

Not good at all.

*flips card*

Aww... looks like SE's gonna ignore your idea.

[Alhanelem]

We need servers with different rulesets. Then everyone can just choose the service they want/prefer instead of having to put up with other people's ideas of a good game which conflict with your own (and the original vision of FFXIV too)

Basically, there are too many competing interests of FF fans and MMO players that just end up ruining the game overall for everyone. So separate servers with different rulesets are needed.

They should implement a PvP server, hardcore server, casual server, a server with lighter restrictions (see Optimal Rank and Favoured Class system).

And everyone will live happily after.

It's a bit presumptuous to make MMOs around a one-size-fits-all policy.

You don't need seperate servers to cater to different groups. All you need is content that pleases each group. Each type of player indirectly benefits from the existence of the others. Seperating them all with special rules for each just sterilizes the game and honestly would make it less appealing to me.

[ellohwell]

You don't need seperate servers to cater to different groups. All you need is content that pleases each group. Each type of player indirectly benefits from the existence of the others. Seperating them all with special rules for each just sterilizes the game and honestly would make it less appealing to me.

I disagree, each player ruins it for everyone else because the dev team water everything down in an attempt to appease everyone and end up pleasing no one.

[KaiKatzchen]

I disagree, each player ruins it for everyone else because the dev team water everything down in an attempt to appease everyone and end up pleasing no one.

I disagree with your disagreement.

Breaking everyone down into specific groups on different servers is a silly idea, makes no sense and is a waste of time. I personally love everyone in my shell from the hardcore to the person who logs in once or twice a week. When the Casual wants to try something hardcore to have fun, they have hardcore people to help. When the hardcore just want's to craft all day, they have people to talk too... etc.

Each player adds a different perspective, feeling and relationship to the game. You would have everyone broken down into boring tiny servers with specific rules per server. How does that make any sense?

Yeah SE stop improving the game and start making up 50 different server with 50 different rule types, that's a much better way to use your time. -___-;

Seriously...

[grandm]

another awful idea there OP. but keep trying one of these idea's one day has to be a winner

(even a blind squirl finds a nut sometimes)

[Tsukino]

Please suggest more terrible WoW ideas.

It sounds good at first but there are two major flaws with it. The first is that it segregates players, thus robbing players of the ability to play the game with people who have different styles and forcing the large number of people with views in the middle to take a stance on something they'd prefer not to. The other is that it creates more work for the development team to balance every patch - if they add equipment it would have to be balanced for "required level" and "optimal level" servers, when they adjust PvP and new areas they have to consider both PvP and "normal" servers, etc. There are also additional issues with things like costs for maintaining servers for the less popular "options."

[Vanguard319]

uh, no.

They're already planning to implement a system to allow party searches over all servers, even if your proposal wasn't an obvious troll, it would never work in practical terms.

[Preypacer]

We need servers with different rulesets. Then everyone can just choose the service they want/prefer instead of having to put up with other people's ideas of a good game which conflict with your own (and the original vision of FFXIV too)

Anyone else get the distinct impression this bit in bold is the real motivation behind this thread? I mean, considering how often "ellohwell" bashes Yoshi's direction and longs for the days that Tanaka was driving the game into the ground with one poorly conceived and almost unanimously derided decision after another?

Basically, there are too many competing interests of FF fans and MMO players that just end up ruining the game overall for everyone. So separate servers with different rulesets are needed.

Could you please, for once, speak for yourself and stop presuming to speak for "everyone"? Is that possible?

No, it does not end up ruining "the game for everyone overall". It only "ruins the game" for those like yourself who think everything should revolve around what they want, or it's no good. It ruins it for those who, like you, refuse accept that there are going to be things in life that they're not going to like - however much they might want to.. and that it's okay; no crime's been committed because some company produced something you don't like. It "ruins it" for people who, like you, refuse to move on from something they clearly and demonstrably do not like, complain about constantly... but yet still stick around, just to complain some more.

Believe it or not, there are who people who, though they may not like everything in the game, can find enough they do like to keep playing and having fun. Believe it or not, there are people out there who find things enjoyable, even though "ellohwell" can't conceive that different opinions really do exist and that others could possibly like something they don't.

They should implement a PvP server, hardcore server, casual server, a server with lighter restrictions (see Optimal Rank and Favoured Class system).

Right. Multiply the task of creating new rulesets, balancing content, balancing classes/jobs and creating different versions of content to cater to each group. Yeah.. sure... let's take the already thankless job SE has of trying to balance the game as well as they can to cover different playstyles in XIV's current form to the satisfaction of as many people as possible... and quadruple it. 'cause, you know... they don't have quite enough whining from folks, like yourself, in the game as it is.

You do realize that everyone has their own idea of what "hardcore", "PvP", "casual" is? There is no "one size fits all" definition. And, no... your definition isn't it.

Do you ever stop to think about some of the stuff you come up with objectively or critically before posting it? Do you even try? Or do you consider every thought you come up with as "brilliant", simply because you thought of it?

And everyone will live happily after.

Conjecture.

It would work great for you. That does not mean it would automatically work great "for everybody".

Again, stop presuming to speak for everyone else.

It's a bit presumptuous to make MMOs around a one-size-fits-all policy.

No, it's not presumptuous. It's called "Nothing is for everybody", a very basic concept that applies to countless things.

SE is creating a specific experience, intended for a specific demographic of people. If you don't happen to fall into that demographic or find that you don't agree with the game they're creating.. that's fine. There are plenty others who do like the direction they're going.

I realize by now, after having read myriad posts/threads by you, that you find it impossible to believe that people could possibly just not automatically agree with everything you say, and that they might actually have different opinions, likes, dislikes and ideas. Now, I realize you find that idea intolerable and unacceptable, and have a history of lashing out at people freely for merely daring to disagree with you.. I've read enough of your stuff here to realize that loud and clear.

But maybe... just maybe... somewhere down the road, when you've grown up, your mind has opened and the blinders have fallen away, you'll realize that no, the world really doesn't revolve around what "elohwell" thinks and, no, you really don't, and couldn't speak for everybody.