Early Pulling - Is it wrong?

[MugenMugetsu]

Oh god...just realised something from shouts... people think this new rmt report feature is something they can use for "early pullers". God SE's gonna remove it so fast. This is why we can't have nice things.

Oh god...just realised...SE won't even act on reports of early pullers because they aren't violating ToS. You're worries hold no weight and will have zero impact on the right click report function. The GMs who review the reports are why we can have nice things.

Edit: To avoid making another post...I'm extremely thankful for the people on Mateus who are courteous and do wait for everyone to arrive before pulling. There are a few occasions here and there where there will be people who pull extremely fast and do not allow time for everyone to gather, but in my experience, and I hunt A LOT, at least 98% of the time people are very patient and respectful of everyone on Mateus.

[MomomiMomi]

Oh god...just realised...SE won't even act on reports of early pullers because they aren't violating ToS. You're worries hold no weight and will have zero impact on the right click report function. The GMs who review the reports are why we can have nice things.

Except they said it's automated. If enough reports come in, people get sent right to jail.

Waiting a minute isn't going to kill you. I'm not saying you have to wait for the entire damn server to pop up.

Waiting 1 minute is not going to change the fact that the majority of people are going to say you pulled early. And it doesn't change the fact that expecting someone to wait for you is selfish. You can hope they wait for you. But expecting them to, and becoming vocally angry at them when they don't? That's pretty selfish. You're being inconsiderate to that person. They might have to go soon. They might want to play the content as it was intended. Try thinking about more than one side of the situation.

All I'm seeing from the collective hunt LSes is "me me me."

[MugenMugetsu]

Except they said it's automated. If enough reports come in, people get sent right to jail.

I kind of doubt that there are going to be enough reports against a so called "early puller" to get them sent to jail. Sure there will be a few butthurt people who may report someone they felt pulled early, but I doubt the number of reports against the individual will warrant going to "jail". Also, if the right click report is supposed to pretty much be targeted at eliminating RMT, it will be pretty obvious who is RMT and who isn't considering RMT have the keyboard smash names and the rest of us have names that actually look like names.

I don't see the right click report function being reconsidered and taken away due to people reporting early pullers. Honestly, I don't think an early puller will have enough right click reports against them to warrant them being sent to jail in the first place.

Edit: To add to this, I feel that everyone should be patient and wait for as many people as possible to arrive to kill a Hunt. They only spawn ever so often and, to me, it's just the courteous thing to do. Thankfully, I'm on a server with very courteous players (and plenty of available housing *hint hint* *wink wink*). It's pretty obvious when is the right time to pull and when it's a bit too early. If the hunt has been relayed you will of course see people asking for invites in /shout. When the number of shouts for invites becomes few and far between it's a good time to /shout a pull time and have that be 2-4 minutes from the current time to allow stragglers to arrive, or simply /shout "Anyone otw?" ....... If no response, then pulling is completely acceptable.

Honestly we're all adults here. It's pretty obvious if you're pulling a hunt mark while people are still asking for invites, which is a good indication that you're probably pulling too soon. Obviously, everyone will play how they want and that's also acceptable. So, to finish this up, if you're on a server where early pulling occurs frequently, I'm sorry you have to deal with that. There's plenty of room on Mateus and we would love to have more courteous players on our server!

[MomomiMomi]

Honestly, I don't think an early puller will have enough right click reports against them to warrant them being sent to jail in the first place.

Mateus

I think I see why you think that.

Instead make server wide message for S rank spawn.This way everyone has the same time and chance with the s rank.

You want to make it worse?!

[Metalwrath]

I think I see why you think that.



You want to make it worse?!

Trols will always troll and early pull.But trolls with the 3rd party tool get there before the people who don't use the 3rd party tool.Sure the early puling will still happen but atleast everyone gets notified at the same time.

[MomomiMomi]

Trols will always troll and early pull.But trolls with the 3rd party tool get there before the people who don't use the 3rd party tool.Sure the early puling will still happen but atleast everyone gets notified at the same time.

And then your entire server is in Sea of Clouds and it crashes.

[MugenMugetsu]

And then your entire server is in Sea of Clouds and it crashes.

lol
/10char

[Cakekizyy]

Except they said it's automated. If enough reports come in, people get sent right to jail.

Then GMs review logs and punish reporters for abusing report system.

[Alistaire]

Oh god...just realised...SE won't even act on reports of early pullers because they aren't violating ToS. You're worries hold no weight and will have zero impact on the right click report function. The GMs who review the reports are why we can have nice things.

Edit: To avoid making another post...I'm extremely thankful for the people on Mateus who are courteous and do wait for everyone to arrive before pulling. There are a few occasions here and there where there will be people who pull extremely fast and do not allow time for everyone to gather, but in my experience, and I hunt A LOT, at least 98% of the time people are very patient and respectful of everyone on Mateus.

You misunderstand, I'm not saying reporting "early pullers" will work, I'm saying SE will get flooded by idiots reporting "early pullers" with that feature so much they'll end up removing the feature. The new feature is the "nice thing" and people abusing it to report someone pulling a hunt mob is what will make it so we can't have that nice thing.

tl;dr we're on the same page.

The act of interfering with other's enjoyment of the game IS against the rules.

Directly from the EULA:
"Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players"

So if someone has an ugly or too sexy glamour I can say they're interfering with my enjoyment of the game? If someone undercuts me that's interference too! ...this is just getting silly.

[FinaSel]

So if someone has an ugly or too sexy glamour I can say they're interfering with my enjoyment of the game? If someone undercuts me that's interference too! ...this is just getting silly.

But would you really say that because someone's glamour is too ugly or sexy that it is preventing you from enjoying the game? Really? Would you really say that?
Which is more ridiculous? Wearing "ugly" or "sexy" glamour or complaining that someone's glamour is too ugly or sexy?

And please consider whether the other person is deliberately wearing that glamour just to make you angry and because they get a kick out of making others mad.

Undercutting someone and pulling an S rank before the group that worked hard to spawn it arrives on purpose are two totally different things too.
Keep in mind: is the person undercutting you doing it just to make you angry because that is fun for them? Or are they doing it because they are also trying to sell something...without any evil intention of ruining your experience.

People seem to be either missing or avoiding the main point here. If someone is purposefully interfering with others' ability to enjoy the game for their own selfish reasons, knowing what they are doing is causing many other people trouble, yet, despite knowing that continue to do it simply for the fun of being an annoying brat...then yeah I think would definitely violate the EULA of "Disruption".