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  1. #61
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    Drkdays's Avatar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    IIRC, SE has stated that was intent of hunts.
    SE made it so S ranks and most 50+ A ranks require a large group to kill. There is benefit in waiting and no benefit in rushing. First come first serve... provided they have backup... It's clearly meant to be a group effort and early pullers clearly spoil that with self centered actions. The intent of high rank hunts is max participation for mass rewards. Something even undergeared and inexperienced players can be a part of.... provided they make it in time.
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    Last edited by Drkdays; 06-20-2016 at 04:47 AM.

  2. #62
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    SE made it so S ranks and most 50+ A ranks require a large group to kill. There is benefit in waiting and no benefit in rushing. First come first serve, provided they have backup... It's clearly meant to be a group effort and early pullers clearly spoil that with self centered actions. The intent of high rank hunts is max participation for mass rewards.
    The A ranks were meant for a single party. I wouldn't call that a large group.
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  3. #63
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    Clearly you've never tried Merka(Merska? W/e) with only only 8 players. Or that owl critter.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Clearly you've never tried Merka(Merska? W/e) with only only 8 players.
    I have. Did all my hunts with 2-8 people before this patch.
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  5. #65
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    Frederick Blake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Clearly you've never tried Merka(Merska? W/e) with only only 8 players. Or that owl critter.
    Mirka, and you right. NO way you can do mirka withouth someone that can use silence.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I have. Did all my hunts with 2-8 people before this patch.
    Then you don't have to worry about early pulls in any case.
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  7. #67
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Mirka, and you right. NO way you can do mirka withouth someone that can use silence.
    Did it with only one silence, which meant that every other one of his freezes went through. Still won.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Then you don't have to worry about early pulls in any case.
    I... don't? I already stated I don't think there's such a thing as early pulling.
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    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 06-20-2016 at 04:58 AM.

  8. #68
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    The A ranks were meant for a single party. I wouldn't call that a large group.
    What was intended and what the community actually does have always been two different things, for better or worse. And regardless, there's still zero reason not to wait for as many people as possible since there's no benefit to pulling "early". It also depends on when we're talking about because when hunts were first introduced (and even during the early days of HW) you would be hard-pressed to kill some of the A ranks with just a single group. It wasn't until our gear started to outstrip the set strength of the mobs that it started to become more and more of a single group affair, but it most certainly didn't start that way.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Miles Saintborough
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    No matter how many people you wait for, you're always going to be an early puller to SOMEONE. No more playing nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    It wasn't until our gear started to outstrip the set strength of the mobs that it started to become more and more of a single group affair, but it most certainly didn't start that way.
    Have been doing hunts since they were first introduced. Yes, it did start out that way.
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