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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Crimson Bloodrose
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    I do hunts, I play on Ragnarok and I have no idea who your talking about so 'everyone knows him' is not true. I highly doubt any single individual can be at every hunt and be the person who pulls at each. It is not griefing to pull at any given time, it might be stupid to pull when not enough people are there because you will just die though. It is however harassment if name shame with shouts as a way to single someone out for abuse and such, it is harassment to send abusive tells to someone and it is harassment to keep resetting a hunt to prevent people from killing it. Those three things are reportable.

    Pulling and not waiting for you/me and/or your/my friends is not. I personally wait a few minutes after enough people have turned up to actually beat the target but I will not wait there all day for stragglers and there is no official amount of time anyone has to wait. If I do not make it in time I don't get my knickers in a twist over it though, I am not entitled to force everyone to wait for me and if I see anyone name shaming someone as a way to target them for abuse I will report the person name shaming. To be honest there is way too many people hiding behind the excuse of "consideration" or using the term "early pulling" as a smoke screen for actually meaning "they never waited for me" in here.

    They don't wait for me either and quite often I don't make it in time but so be it, no big deal. I have no intention of harassing people over it. Hunt mobs are not finite, they spawn all over Eorzea, most spawn every few hours in regards to A ranks, the S spawn generally every day or two days but they also require more people to actually kill it so people wait longer for people to arrive on those. It would be nice if SE added more hunt mobs in this game and maybe increase the spawn rate, remove the link to gear progression so that people only do them because they enjoy doing them, perhaps introduce a level sync to them too but I am not entitled to take part in every one that spawns plus I don't get to dictate how long everyone should wait and neither does anyone else here.
    You are assuming a bit too much from my post. My concern isn't about getting to the hunt or not getting to the hunt because an early puller, things aren't just fine as long as I can get my seals just like things aren't horrible and unplayable if someone pulls and I cannot get any credit, my two lines of post weren't a butthurt reaction from a few missed seals, no. I'm not gonna deny "early pulling" for some people directly translates into "don't pull until I get there", but not for me. In Ragnarok there's one specific alliance that has been causing a lot of grief in this particular area, and there's one specific guy from that alliance which takes things to a complete next level. There's always gonna be that guy or that group of people who always complain about people not waiting (even though they did wait), but when you have someone doing it every time and making a sport out of it, then it feels wrong, very wrong. The "how much time is acceptable and not considered early pulling" sort of reasoning does not work here if the person in question does not even wait 1 second every time.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 06-22-2016 at 04:43 PM.