Early Pulling - Is it wrong?

[Cakekizyy]

No, its not.

IIRC, SE has stated that was intent of hunts.

[Exantra]

I've stopped caring at this point. On a personal level if I find a hunt I'll do my best to facilitate as many people as possible since we're all going after the same thing. It's just naive to expect everybody else on any given server to adhere to a similar mindset, nor is it really feasible on the bigger servers during prime time hours. They're not obligated to stick to any code and they're certainly not breaking any rules. Others simply don't care or lack and/or withhold the compassion to care about those outside of their own small groups. As nice as it would be, they're not going to change.

[Ninster]

This comes down to an entitlement issue. I'm not sure on what level of interest in hunts everyone is on, but I'm not currently part of any hunt LS and I only have a mild interest in hunts.

For someone like me to whine about early pulling is really unreasonable, and I don't. As such, I instead lower my expectations: if an S is called out, I assume it's already been pulled and will be dead when I arrive. If an A is called out, I assume I have anywhere from a minute to 10 seconds to fly over before it's pulled. If it's a B rank, I giggle to myself if someone asks for an invite or groan if someone makes a lame pun about it (Scarecrow and Naul, anyone?).

If I was more engaged in hunts, I might not so much raise my expectations but raise my level of preparedness. If a timer is about to be up for a hunt, I'd zone in to the area and start looking. If it's an S rank, I'd try to help spawn it.

The way I see it, you get out of hunts what you put into it, and should only expect as much when it comes to arrival times.

[AsteriaStarfall]

I simply blacklist early pullers so they can never join my hunt groups. Also i use a very simple macro
/shout S Rank <t> Pulled by <tt>
As soon at it shows as aggroed i hit that. Let the hunters sort out how they feel about the pull

[MilesSaintboroguh]

No matter how many people you wait for, you're always going to be an early puller to SOMEONE. No more playing nice.

[Alistaire]

Oh god...just realised something from shouts... people think this new rmt report feature is something they can use for "early pullers". God SE's gonna remove it so fast. This is why we can't have nice things.

[MugenMugetsu]

Oh god...just realised something from shouts... people think this new rmt report feature is something they can use for "early pullers". God SE's gonna remove it so fast. This is why we can't have nice things.

Oh god...just realised...SE won't even act on reports of early pullers because they aren't violating ToS. You're worries hold no weight and will have zero impact on the right click report function. The GMs who review the reports are why we can have nice things.

Edit: To avoid making another post...I'm extremely thankful for the people on Mateus who are courteous and do wait for everyone to arrive before pulling. There are a few occasions here and there where there will be people who pull extremely fast and do not allow time for everyone to gather, but in my experience, and I hunt A LOT, at least 98% of the time people are very patient and respectful of everyone on Mateus.

[MomomiMomi]

Oh god...just realised...SE won't even act on reports of early pullers because they aren't violating ToS. You're worries hold no weight and will have zero impact on the right click report function. The GMs who review the reports are why we can have nice things.

Except they said it's automated. If enough reports come in, people get sent right to jail.

Waiting a minute isn't going to kill you. I'm not saying you have to wait for the entire damn server to pop up.

Waiting 1 minute is not going to change the fact that the majority of people are going to say you pulled early. And it doesn't change the fact that expecting someone to wait for you is selfish. You can hope they wait for you. But expecting them to, and becoming vocally angry at them when they don't? That's pretty selfish. You're being inconsiderate to that person. They might have to go soon. They might want to play the content as it was intended. Try thinking about more than one side of the situation.

All I'm seeing from the collective hunt LSes is "me me me."

[MugenMugetsu]

Except they said it's automated. If enough reports come in, people get sent right to jail.

I kind of doubt that there are going to be enough reports against a so called "early puller" to get them sent to jail. Sure there will be a few butthurt people who may report someone they felt pulled early, but I doubt the number of reports against the individual will warrant going to "jail". Also, if the right click report is supposed to pretty much be targeted at eliminating RMT, it will be pretty obvious who is RMT and who isn't considering RMT have the keyboard smash names and the rest of us have names that actually look like names.

I don't see the right click report function being reconsidered and taken away due to people reporting early pullers. Honestly, I don't think an early puller will have enough right click reports against them to warrant them being sent to jail in the first place.

Edit: To add to this, I feel that everyone should be patient and wait for as many people as possible to arrive to kill a Hunt. They only spawn ever so often and, to me, it's just the courteous thing to do. Thankfully, I'm on a server with very courteous players (and plenty of available housing *hint hint* *wink wink*). It's pretty obvious when is the right time to pull and when it's a bit too early. If the hunt has been relayed you will of course see people asking for invites in /shout. When the number of shouts for invites becomes few and far between it's a good time to /shout a pull time and have that be 2-4 minutes from the current time to allow stragglers to arrive, or simply /shout "Anyone otw?" ....... If no response, then pulling is completely acceptable.

Honestly we're all adults here. It's pretty obvious if you're pulling a hunt mark while people are still asking for invites, which is a good indication that you're probably pulling too soon. Obviously, everyone will play how they want and that's also acceptable. So, to finish this up, if you're on a server where early pulling occurs frequently, I'm sorry you have to deal with that. There's plenty of room on Mateus and we would love to have more courteous players on our server!

[MomomiMomi]

Honestly, I don't think an early puller will have enough right click reports against them to warrant them being sent to jail in the first place.

Mateus

I think I see why you think that.

Instead make server wide message for S rank spawn.This way everyone has the same time and chance with the s rank.

You want to make it worse?!