Early Pulling - Is it wrong?

[Hitsuzen]

This is a fight between people who think they should be able to exhibit antisocial behavior and not get any kind of backlash from it and people who are more understanding and empathetic.

Selfish people will always defend themselves. Whereas empathetic people will acknowlege the points of the selfish person then try to explain why they should be more understanding.

Are we apes that play dominance games and throw fecies or are we civilized mature human beings?

[Gramul]

I mean, it can be rude for sure, but that's why communication is key.
It's real stupid to get mad when you haven't made your intentions clear. People can't read your mind.

That goes for real life too. Y'all make sure to not stand around waiting for someone else to speak up and get offended when someone else takes charge.

[FawkesSake]

"a group of hunters have tracked a large stag, and found it to follow a certain path. If all the hunters work together, they can kill the stag and all eat. If they are discovered, or do not cooperate, the stag will flee, and all will go hungry.

The hunters hide and wait along a path. An hour goes by, with no sign of the stag. Hours pass, with no trace. The stag may not pass every day, but the hunters are reasonably certain that it will come. However, a hare is seen by all hunters moving along the path.

If a hunter leaps out and kills the hare, he will eat. However, it results in the trap laid for the stag to be wasted, and the others will starve. There is no certainty that the stag will arrive; the hare is present. The dilemma is that if one hunter waits, he risks one of his fellows killing the hare for himself, sacrificing everyone else. This makes the risk twofold; risk the stag never coming, or risk another man taking the kill."

[KageTokage]

I'd personally define an "early pull" as someone pulling after others have clearly made it know that they're still on the way to the hunt in shout chat. People shouldn't be getting mad if the hunt gets killed before they reach it but didn't let anyone know they were coming.

But really, the fault doesn't lie solely with the puller, as the other players could hold off/slow their DPS if they know others are coming. It's not like one tank has any chance of depriving a whole mob of people of their hunt credit and a single DPS will get killed by the boss rather quickly if no one else jumps in to take aggro.

I have to deal with this a lot being one of the few players who actively spawns/calls S ranks on Cactaur, and people generally are willing to wait a few minutes, though there's often one of those guys who pulls the boss the moment they arrive to get it over with and/or irritate the people who frown on such behavior.

[Furiea]

someone hang the guy that bumped this dead old thread...

[Kosmos992k]

someone hang the guy that bumped this dead old thread...

Reticle the topic;

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