Early Pulling - Is it wrong?

[Imoen]

It doesn't make you an A***ole either...

Everyone that gets THIS upset over this, should not be doing this in the first place... they should be doing something else in the game. There are multiple avenues to do things... and don't give me that "Well this is fastest" crap... because I don't want to hear it.

If hunting is raising your stress level sooo high that you feel the need to lash out because you missed out on something... then you are the one with the problem... not the puller.

[Pyro2hell3]

on my sever it used to be the norm to wait about 2-4 minutes before pulling. Then in the last week or so an fc showed up that pulls as soon as they get there every time, seem to always be on hunting and i'm pretty sure don't report kills either so the hunter tracker thing is messed up. These guys have pretty much killed the hunt on my server.
Do you guys really think its okay for a small group of people to be make an entire part of the game impossible to play for the rest of the people on the server?

[Corfish]

do you guys really think its okay for a small group of people to be make an entire part of the game impossible to play for the rest of the people on the server?

Well... To be frank, yes. The way hunts are handled now is not how they were intended. The way that FC is handling them on the other hand is how they were intended to be handled. You may not like it, but that's the fact of the matter.

[Erim-Nelhah]

Well... To be frank, yes. The way hunts are handled now is not how they were intended. The way that FC is handling them on the other hand is how they were intended to be handled. You may not like it, but that's the fact of the matter.

I said I was done with this thread, but I really want to highlight this. If this is what I think it is - an FC going out of its way to find and kill hunts without calling them, then in my opinion that's their business (assuming they're not going out of their way to kill hunts called by others before the "mass" can arrive). I agree with Corfish here, it's the way Hunts are meant to be done. Other hunting groups "call" their hunts to others (linksheslls, FCs, /shout) as a courtesy - one I appreciate, and respect by not pulling hunts I didn't find myself.

--Erim Nelhah

[Kathyz]

I just said it as a joke but yeah you arent wrong the hunting point its to search and kill, one can say its people vs people, we just put "regulations" so everyone can take marks but those are just ours no "legal regulations" were GMs can do something.

[Imoen]

I just said it as a joke

Which is exactly why I didn't quote you the first time, because I was saying that in general, not specifically directed at you.

I stopped hunting a long time ago. However; I still have to deal with all the yelling and shouting, and crappy behavior from people that showed 2 seconds too late or w/e.

I stopped hunting, when one day I had been shouting, talking to shells etc... about a hunt I found... was there for 30 min... finally we decide to just kill it.. like "i guess no ones online or interested right now" Then when it is almost dead a huge horde of people show up and start cursing at us etc...

That's crap behavior, and it wasn't on my end.

[Eldevern]

I would not say there are early pull if I could not see the difference from a hunt to another. BUT there are difference, a hunt, a morning, as for A than for a S, is pretty neat and fair. The week-end some people who don't play during the week come and destroy everything without a d*mn care even for the one who make the S spawn. Why do you believe in our server, we ended to blacklist and exclude not only players but sometimes full FC from hunt LS. Because they pull when the people who do the spawn have the right to claim and decide when to pull.

When people fake the hunt reporting tool, is it something else than just trolling in their own interest? It is just selfish, it is not the way the game has been designed for. This is all but an excuse people use to justify their selfishness and if Yoshida more or less told he will not change things, it is because in Japan, players are more fair than us in western countries. He only think we have to do our own regulation.

I would not say there are early pull if there weren't dps who troll tanks in dungeon just because they are in a hurry, these people who play as if their only purpose was to purish game of other players, as if their only enjoyment were in despising and purish others. I can't tolerat this. World is not justice, for the less, but is is not with accepting such behavior we can do things going better. Selfishness and purish other's experience can't be tolerated.

[Millen1]

Hunts are dumb and putting unlimited gear upgrades from 230 to 240 is even worse. You get a once a week upgrade from running the 24 man content but hunts are unlimited and require no skill plus ppl cheat like crazy with guild works. So how is it even a hunt if guild works can tell everyone where it is without having to hunt for it? I will say it again, They should add the seals to 24 man content, roulette and things like that so that you upgrade your gear doing something fun and requires more skill then a hunt. Weeping City is nice, Why not put 100 seals at the end of the raid as a reward? Feels like laziness on SEs part and a lack of community by having a few flat out cheat on hunts. Plus, sucks when you wait for the hunt for a minute or two and that server trash runs up and solo pulls. Real classy.

[CheshirePuss]

Hunts are dumb and putting unlimited gear upgrades from 230 to 240 is even worse. You get a once a week upgrade from running the 24 man content but hunts are unlimited and require no skill plus ppl cheat like crazy with guild works. So how is it even a hunt if guild works can tell everyone where it is without having to hunt for it? I will say it again, They should add the seals to 24 man content, roulette and things like that so that you upgrade your gear doing something fun and requires more skill then a hunt. Weeping City is nice, Why not put 100 seals at the end of the raid as a reward? Feels like laziness on SEs part and a lack of community by having a few flat out cheat on hunts. Plus, sucks when you wait for the hunt for a minute or two and that server trash runs up and solo pulls. Real classy.

But... you'd die if you solo pulled. o-o;

[ElHeggunte]

But... you'd die if you solo pulled. o-o;

The problem is once someone so much as aggros the mob, everyone else rushes in guns blazing because they're afraid they might miss out if they attempt to bank on letting the puller die or wait for the mob to reset. The puller is unlikely to die, and even if they did the damage is already done because the mob is going to die in a matter of seconds.