Early Pulling - Is it wrong?

[Canadane]

Early pulling has been rampant on Hyperion as of late. Some people have told me the hunts are dead before they get there following the GW alert, that's pretty bad considering it is usually one of the fastest avenue of report. So it comes down to what is "early pulling", the person which decides when to pull should be of the group that discovered but as we all share Eorza and its inhabitants there exists an unspoken cordial window that defines right from selfishness.

I've not seen much issue on Hyperion myself.
Perhaps your standards are too high.

[Marcellus_Cassius]

I've not seen much issue on Hyperion myself.
Perhaps your standards are too high.

I'm glad to see most of the time it doesn't occur, it did yesterday when I held back from calling them out because they were attacked as soon as they were found.

But Early Pulling doesn't exist. What determines the right time to pull is if the group pulling has just enough units to destroy the target. Hunts have always been about being at the right place during the right time. If a target dies before you get there, then there's not much that can be done about it. It just probably means a lot of people are doing hunts at that time, which really shouldn't be a surprise either.

It kinda does, but to each their own how they choose to practice good manners.

[CheshirePuss]

It kinda does, but to each their own how they choose to practice good manners.

That seems.... irrelevant, doesn't it? Please and thank you shouldn't abate to a 5-10 minute wait due to someone lagging behind on being aware of a hunt they were going after, which is also unfortunately unknowing to the awaiting group already at the hunt anyways, so how are they to even know? People have attempted this before, and it ends the same. Group waits a few minutes longer than usual before engaging the target, yet someone still asks if the target is dead, or why they haven't waited. There's no winning in the end if someone wants to sake their side of an argument using just that.

[Stormrider]

Early pulling has been rampant on Hyperion as of late. Some people have told me the hunts are dead before they get there following the GW alert, that's pretty bad considering it is usually one of the fastest avenue of report. So it comes down to what is "early pulling", the person which decides when to pull should be of the group that discovered but as we all share Eorza and its inhabitants there exists an unspoken cordial window that defines right from selfishness.

Would not GW reports be not in the spirit of the game? Is it like a spam text? Are you trying to run a 3rd party program to get a jump. It is not the same as someone telling you? Is it an automated system sending out a report?

[Cakekizyy]

What is GW?

[Yawnie]

As someone who doesn't hunt regularly I feel a bit uhmm... Passive? About the whole thing.

I mean its fun getting the kill and if my friends or LS alerts me of a hunt and I miss it I just shrug it off. Though I think the situation is getting a bit out of hand on my server. I'll usually see /shout fights about "early pulling". Though this is mostly people bashing a very umm... Infamous FC on balmung.

All in all I don't believe in the whole early pulling thing. If you're there well cool, you get to participate. If not then... Bad timing? I feel like some people might have a limited time to play and thus don't want to wait around too long for others to get there.

[Eldevern]

Early pull exists for S ran; for an A, I would not say that, but when you tp in the 30 seconds following the announcement in the LS and you arrive, the mob is just dead, when you are sure the LS is efficient, this IS an early pull, just an egoist troll pull. Hey men, remember a S is three day spawn and not everybody can spend the whole day in the game all the week. Every week-end, it is always the same some troll just early pull because he's just an egoist.

This almost never happens the whole week, except when some troll is... coming back from school? from work? getting his week-end and find fun to bother other people expressing the most egoist behavior?

I don't really care about the rewards and just keep going but I can't give my approval to such behavior. Egoist is egoist and I will always tell when it is. Because if you refuse to admit you do are a ***** egoist, you deserve we tell how troll and unfunny "you" are.

You know what, you just refuse other people the right to play when you early pull because egoist pull is not the game, it is BEHAVIOR, a way of acting. Killing the mob is the game. To not wait even three minutes people to come, is just your egoist behavior. The proof, they always, on purpose, stay after to accuse other people of whining. If they were sure of their rights, they would NEVER express such behavior. This is troll provocation, childish behavior.

You consider you have the right to pull, then we have the right to say you are just an egoist. Don't find yourself false or stupid excuse to hide from your own eyes you are an egoist and a troll.


The most funny is when we see whole hunters being dead because the stupid early puller, pulled... Kaiser Behemot while teams were not ready and complete. Early puller win nothing except a wipe and all people angry against him and his stupidity.

[Cakekizyy]

If they had enough to kill it, then it's not an early pull.

[Eldevern]

If they had enough to kill it, then it's not an early pull.

For a ARR S rank, I would not say that. Especially when I saw similar behavior, today, for Kaiser Behemoth and the early pull lead to a whole wipe and reset. This always happens the week-end. The week-end, there are always people who come-pull. I just can't keep silent when I see that. The week-end, few FC seem to be specialized to pourish the game of other players. I don't care for myself, it is just unfair behavior I can't deal with. If people want to go that way, they should organize their LAN party on CoD or play LoL. I consider there is a problemto play a MMO an acting full egoist and selfish behavior, without consideration for other people game experience. Liberty is not to do as you like or want, it is to limit yourself to guarantee same libery to other.

[Kathyz]

Someone can post the meme " you arent wrong just an a***ole" for me plz? Thx xD