Early Pulling - Is it wrong?

[Drkdays]

And any time 200 people from a hunt LS come flooding in, they are actively ruining my enjoyment of the game.

Maybe you should stick to non mmo RPG then... / drops mic

[alimdia]

So you're talking about enjoying the fight? O.o Ppl really need these hunts you know. Relics, gear, mounts, pets, mats, ventures, etc... You'd deny them that so you can enjoy a somewhat more challenging fight?

No one is being denied of anything, we already went through 3 different hunting season in 2.3, 2.5 and 3.1, hunt activity always dies a few weeks after patch, after the people who grind it get all the lore upgrades they need, if you're late to get there you still have many other months to obtain seals.

Maybe you should stick to non mmo RPG then... / drops mic

Nah, the way SE designed this content happens to mach his expectation, it's you people who insist on stacking 300 people for a single hunt that are in the wrong.

[Metalwrath]

I'm amazed the amount of players trying to justify or defend pulling the hunts without even waiting a few mins.
As someone who hunts a lot i want to let players know the actual situations that happen with hunts.
Generally people who find the hunt don't pull the hunts.I've very rarely seen this happen as someone comes along and pulls it instead.The only time you'll see the one who found the hunt pull it is in off peak server times when there isn't a big crowd.
So who is pulling the hunts and why?
Mostly it's trolls doing it.It's being done on purpose to grief a large number of players they know are on the way to try and deny them getting marks and cause drama on servers.People try do this a lot with Summoner.They try to early pull with Garuda because they think they won't get caught and blacklisted.

[Metalwrath]

Another myth from the majority of early pulls is 'oh you were too slow we first shouted 10 mins ago etc.' this has been disproved many times by other players useing the 3rd party programmes that tell them when the S rank has spawned on the server.
It would be very strange aswell for these statements if magically only a handful of people after the claimed 5-10 mins showed up.Word travels fast and especially at peak times you can tell by the size of the crowd at the scene if the target has been rush pulled.
Here are the simple facts.The player community has grown a lot more toxic over the last year especially since Heavensward came along.There's a constant 'me me ' attitude from a lot of the player base now who aren't bothered being considerate to other players.
People were generally acting reasonable with hunts until they put the new books in the trader for the seals.It happend the last time too.Now it's the attitude of every man for themselves and 'screw everyone else'

[Nicobo]

To those people mentioned "black list the bad guy"

Was is fool to blacklist the "early puller"? If you blacklisted him, next time you can't see him pull it.. ^^;

[MomomiMomi]

Another myth from the majority of early pulls is 'oh you were too slow we first shouted 10 mins ago etc.' this has been disproved many times by other players useing the 3rd party programmes that tell them when the S rank has spawned on the server.

I've seen hunts be shouted with people claiming 14 minutes later that it was an early pull. This is no myth.

[Nabiri]

While it may be frustrating to miss out, I am not entitled to the hunt.
I have no idea how long the first people have been waiting (and it's cool that they were kind enough to wait for some people), but I believe it would be rude of me to ask them to wait any longer. So I just rush to the area, and if I miss out it was just crap luck. No one at fault.

[Brian_]

I don't get some people in this topic. Is there such a thing as early pulling? Hell yea. There are times when you will find an A rank or spawn an S rank with only a handful of people around. If I just straight pulled it and killed it with a handful of people just as the call is going out to all the hunt LSs, would that be early pulling? Yea. It would be. On my server, from the time it's called to the time it's dead you have ~3-4 minutes at best. If something is getting pulled in 30 seconds it's factually earlier than the average pull. Do I deserve to be kicked from every hunt LS I am in? Yea. If you can't function as a member of a group, then you shouldn't be in the group.

Do people here really have such little sense? Wait until the call goes out to the LSs, give people a little time to get to the hunt and group up. Don't act like a clueless sociopath who is completely oblivious to how fast hunts get called, pulled, and die on your server. If stuff is getting pulled within 2 minutes, then everyone should be expecting that and deal with it. But, when that is the norm and you are pulling at 10 seconds, you shouldn't be mad when people call you what you are and blacklist you.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

The fact that this is being brought up yet again must mean content here is running dry. I see no change in the hunts at all.

[MomomiMomi]

The fact that this is being brought up yet again must mean content here is running dry. I see no change in the hunts at all.

Welcome to patch 2.3.