Useless mch cross class debate

[vp_cmc]

I think the competition for 5-th slot goes between quelling strikes vs feint. This is in case if we use 4-th slot for invigorate. With current tp costs an idea to remove invigorate and take quelling strikes and feint may sound more realistic, but it's still too risky for me. (in a raid context. In dungeons invigorate is must have for aoe-s).

[Jukebox12]

I think the competition for 5-th slot goes between quelling strikes vs feint. This is in case if we use 4-th slot for invigorate. With current tp costs an idea to remove invigorate and take quelling strikes and feint may sound more realistic, but it's still too risky for me. (in a raid context. In dungeons invigorate is must have for aoe-s).

Please note rules are said no fient your out of the debate

[MagiusNecros]

Please note rules are said no fient your out of the debate

Just take Quelling if you only have eyes for Quelling or Keen Flurry. In most content especially in groups how often will Flurry be used? Probably never.

Quelling only serves to ensure you don't rip hate off the Tank but on the same token if the Tank is on his A game you won't need Quelling either. And only maybe seems relevant on BLM.

Not much to debate here. One skill is to give 20% damage reduction against physical attacks and as a ranged class you shouldn't be doing this often unless it's touchdown attacks from say Nidhogg. And as I stated before Quelling is just a safety cushion if your Tank just sucks at Enmity control or their gear is just not on par.

[Alistaire]

Please note rules are said no fient your out of the debate

If the spot for the 5th crossclass belongs to a different skill than the 2 you've listed it's completely fine to say that. You can't just go making up arbitrary rules like that.

Also seconding feint as a sure 5th: raging strikes, b4b, invigorate, hawk's eye, feint. With 6th place being quelling and a distant last being keen flurry. If you *need* quelling because you have a bad tank that's a different story, but doesn't make it a better skill.