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    TheX's Avatar
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    Xii Xii
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    Zalera
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    Ninja Lv 70

    Ninja Hide abiltiy

    Make stealth more useful and valuable in PVP please! if no new pvp skills, then this is all i ask XD i just want to be able to ambush more freely!
    Examples
    Being able to stealth in combat
    Being able to teleport or jump behind the target while in stealth for a stun / dps


    #Ambush playstyle \o/
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    Last edited by TheX; 06-19-2016 at 04:28 AM.

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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Nah, the only thing they'll do to ninjas is nerf after nerf after nerf.
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    Syhrwyb's Avatar
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    Syhrlona Haldhaerzwyn
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 70
    I feel like being able to stealth in combat would be a bit much.
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Nah, the only thing they'll do to ninjas is nerf after nerf after nerf.
    HAHA! sadly it's true, even though we just got "buffed" if you could even call it that a buff -.- XD
    On the bright side! if you play MNK or SNM they buff you every patch! -.-

    #GiveNinjasSomeBetterLovinPls
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    Auron Seifer
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TheX View Post
    ...if you play MNK or SNM they buff you every patch! -.-
    I really hope that SNM is just a typo and you don't actually mean SMN, because if you do mean SMN then you really need to pay more attention sport...

    And a big fat NO to your idea, c'mon do you really not see how broken that would be? Jesus...
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheX View Post
    HAHA! sadly it's true, even though we just got "buffed" if you could even call it that a buff -.- XD
    On the bright side! if you play MNK or SNM they buff you every patch! -.-

    #GiveNinjasSomeBetterLovinPls
    They nerfed smn alot and ninja got indeed some buffs pls ninja even got fetter ward. If you could just hide mid combat you could just disappear and be invisible as soon as you get focused.
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    Kai_Lee's Avatar
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    Kai Lee
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Boy, being attacked by a invisible enemy or enemies if multiple ninjas would be overkill plus if they are invisible how in the world do you target them or even fight them? Spamming weak aoes?
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Cactuar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Id rather see suiton function similar to vanish from wow. Instead of letting you use sata it lets you be "hidden" for a short time . Which would probably make landing TA easier while making ninja slightly more stealthy. The limited duration while allowing hiding in combat would prevent you from getting much avoidance out of it due to the move speed reduction in comparison to shikuchi. Plus if you use it to avoid you sacrifice your ninjutsu if kessatsu isn't up
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    Thekk Everdream
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 60
    It's not like hide does not already have some tactical uses like stealing tomeliths by getting to them unseen or hiding in a corner with medals while people lose precious time searching for you.
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Id rather see suiton function similar to vanish from wow. Instead of letting you use sata it lets you be "hidden" for a short time . Which would probably make landing TA easier while making ninja slightly more stealthy. The limited duration while allowing hiding in combat would prevent you from getting much avoidance out of it due to the move speed reduction in comparison to shikuchi. Plus if you use it to avoid you sacrifice your ninjutsu if kessatsu isn't up
    See, I'd like Hide to function like that... Swap Hide and Malmsight, so Hide is a PvP skill that lets you go hidden for a short time. Then it acts as an extra escape skill as well as means to Trick Attack, while not being overpowered due to the duration + hard counter in Detect/AoEs. Meanwhile, Malmsight becomes a PvE skill and gets adjusted to make it so Ninja actually has some stealth gameplay... Perfect invisibility is the worst form of stealth gameplay, and it doesn't even work after Lv50... Instead I'd rather have Malmsight show you enemy fields of detection, so you can sneak (walk) past hearing range or run around avoiding line of sight... Just make it so when you get detected, you get a temporary Suiton style effect so that you can still use Sneak Attack (since you need to enter line of sight by being in front to really land that...), perhaps rename the Suiton effect to something like Element of Surprise... I'd find that much more entertaining for stealth in PvE and PvP, though level design for PvE still leaves much to be desired...
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