Info about the Chinese Cash Shop "Level Jumping Potions"

[Jandor]

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Whatever they do, I hope they put it off until they can do it right. The story is good and I feel it would get a lot less flak if it was something that could be skipped and done as a side activity.
Charging people to essentially delete a portion of the game just strikes me as probably the worst of many possible options.

Oh! As for phasing, just go with whatever it looks like after unlocks and completions. I can't think of that many instances where it would be a *massive* deal, and from a lore perspective you've already theoretically done it . Technically you're just chatting about it/reliving it/sharing it with a storyteller.

[Rikku1987]

I thought asians are grind lovers o.o
This will come to west too i guess, actually i dont care about it and can understand if newcomers are unable to cope FFs high amount of really boring quests especially with another addon... it gets more and more

Dont see a problem here, go for it SE

[Ronivan]

I don't believe I read this, I started this game at 2.4, I crawled all my way up, learning how to play it properly. I expend 2 months like a beggar making items in the streets of Ul'dah, learning how to craft and how to make money, and today I have my own House, 3 Airships totally made by myself. Its totally unfair now a person can just buy their way up, jump through all the hell I went through learning how to play the game. It's ridiculous. I'm not against jumping the history of Realm Reborn, but I'm totally against giving them lv.50 just like that. Let them jump the history but make them level up their characters from level 1 like everyone did. Also this would make them learn how to play, else we would have a big wave of garbage players who don't even know how to tank or heal properly, and we old players will have to pay for it. If this thing ever go to NA servers I'll just quit the game. SE loves to kill the fans they already have trying to get new ones, and in the end lose both.

[Imoen]

I'm personally out of the game with this announcement. It is the exact reason I am canceling my account as of... about 5 min ago.

It isn't that I think it would necessarily effect me in any way etc... etc... It's just that this type of business model with both P2P and non cosmetic micro transactions (Edit since people are so hung up definitions of slang.... of "p2w") with is a deal breaker for me and seems purely greed based, despite what rhetoric people would imply.

In my personal opinion, you can't have it both ways. Either I'm free to log in with no cost, no restrictions, and grind my ass off to the top, with the option of "buying" my way through... OR I'm paying per month to support the team , future development, with peace of mind that my monthly payment was worth something. Ya, I know there is holes in the logic, but both as a developer and as a gamer, I can not stay rallied to this cause.

There is no way in hell I'm dealing with both monthly cost plus level/story skipping being implemented AND stone gain restrictions at the same time. There are multiple ways to handle players falling behind... this is a poor and uninspired way to do that.

Before anyone asks either, no, you can't have my stuff... I'm simply voicing my thoughts on this. Anyone that doesn't agree is fully free to do so and I'm not going to flap my hands about trying to get other people to agree with me. JFYI

Edit: didn't mean to derail your topic. Just "rawr"

[Frowny]

B2W

Win what though? I see this and P2W tossed around but I don't see how people are "winning".

If anything, old players still have the advantage. They will likely be better geared and understand things better.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I don't believe I read this, I started this game at 2.4, I crawled all my way up, learning how to play it properly. I expend 2 months like a beggar making items in the streets of Ul'dah, learning how to craft and how to make money, and today I have my own House, 3 Airships totally made by myself. Its totally unfair now a person can just buy their way up, jump through all the hell I went through learning how to play the game. It's ridiculous. I'm not against jumping the history of Realm Reborn, but I'm totally against giving them lv.50 just like that. Let them jump the history but make them level up their characters from level 1 like everyone did. Also this would make them learn how to play, else we would have a big wave of garbage players who don't even know how to tank or heal properly, and we old players will have to pay for it. If this thing ever go to NA servers I'll just quit the game. SE loves to kill the fans they already have trying to get new ones, and in the end lose both.

Is it cheating they can simply level through PotD and Beast Tribe dailies, which give exorbitantly high EXP rewards? On the crafting side of things, Moogle quests give upwards of a million EXP per day. Compare that to people who leveled upon Heavensward's release. Is that unfair too? Why does it matter how they level, provided there isn't any tangible advantage afforded them over you? People who opt into a skip potion will need to spend potentially hundreds of dollars. I, meanwhile, can put that money towards a new game.

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Like Frowny, I'm curious to know how you define this P2W. If we break it down, potential jump potion-ers still (have to):

- level to 70
- are subjected to weekly restrictions
- upgrade their outdated gear
- learn their job if they have any Savage aspirations
- be kicked from parties if they refuse to listen to advice or play poorly

So... what, exactly, have they won?

[Wolf_Heartnet]

Is it cheating they can simply level through PotD and Beast Tribe dailies, which give exorbitantly high EXP rewards? On the crafting side of things, Moogle quests give upwards of a million EXP per day. Compare that to people who leveled upon Heavensward's release. Is that unfair too?

1 million exp vs 50-60 free levels is hardly a good comparison. To add to this, one is available to everyone and the other is only available with real money.

My opinion is that they should look into alleviating the problems for everyone by making free changes in patches (Remove MSQ req to get into heavensward/stormblood, increase MSQ exp) rather than jumping onto the cash shop train. I'm waiting to see if they actually make such changes for the stormblood patch notes when they come around.

[AlphaFox]

Also to note, unless they are willing to pay for 13 leveling pots, they only get 1 job to 60 (with the subjob to 15), so they still have to level everything else from level 1.