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  1. #151
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    Stanelis's Avatar
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    If that was true then replaying quests would be much simpler and wouldn't require the reset on progression of all other MSQ quests set after it.



    No it doesn't because the people using the Jump Potion are choosing to opt out of the story progression. For them it would be like starting on the 5th chapter of the book. They might get a summary of the earlier 4 chapters but the book would just continue on as if you have already read the first 4. No effect on me since I wouldn't use the Jump Potion.

    On the other hand if SE has to go out of their way to Streamline the MSQ as much as possible to allow people to rush through it, or design it so that it doesn't require previous knowledge it will effect me as a player which frankly bothers me a lot more.
    Nobody is asking SE to streamline stuff or to change how they are making quests (actually we could discuss this but that's beside the point). They could just make it so, as an option, the first story quest of the new expansions to be accessible before finishing the MSQ from the previous expansion. And to avoid people who d accidentally take that quest before finishing the previous storyline, they could just add a text disclaimer before you take it if you didn't complete the previous MSQ.

    Concerning you're first point, I m puzzled because I don't really know what you're talking about. Nobody is asking to replay stuff or whatever (or that's another issue and beside the topic at hand).

    There are no problems, only solutions. The only thing making SE "solving" that issue with boosting potion is pure greed and trying to monetize the tedious aspects of FFXIV. But if we learned something from microtransactions in video games, usually trying to get money out of the tedious aspects of a video game doesn't work. The most successful F2P games are always those in which players are happy to spend money on completely neutral or optional stuff on a gameplay standpoint (see league of legends, as an example).
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    Last edited by Stanelis; 11-17-2016 at 08:19 AM.

  2. #152
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    So these are "i am lazy" items?
    I cannot believe they would add such a thing. How is this good for the game?
    The irony is North American players get critique for sort of being lazy in a sense for not completing content, relics, etc.... and they have leveling potions.... Wow
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  3. #153
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Well I have to tell you, i will totally get these if they come out here. If only to level my alts each to 50 and clear the msq. Then all my poor ignored alts can add rooms to my fc house for more housing fun.
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  4. #154
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    Zeon Darksol
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I hope this never comes to NA, it will ruin this game because the RMT will jump on this and take advantage of these potions.

    Not only that you will have people who have no idea what they are doing, who haven't learned anything from experience of playing from the start.

    It would be like the Abyss FFXI problem where 35 level went to 99 level and had no skill in weapons joining party's not knowing how to do their jobs.
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  5. #155
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    RMT wouldn't use it because it will likely cost money making RMT uses not profitable.

    There are already people who don't know what they are doing who have levelled normally. If anything PotD has only increased this. People who want to and will make the effort to learn will wether they start at 1 or 60.

    No one is saying it should be done in a vacuum. Anyone jumping is going to need some guidance and if SE doesn't provide that it would be a disaster. Regardless the current set up is turning people off the game. The climb that a new player has to make to get to the point where they can be engaged in most group content is a long one and will only be getting longer.
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  6. #156
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    They could just make it so, as an option, the first story quest of the new expansions to be accessible before finishing the MSQ from the previous expansion. And to avoid people who d accidentally take that quest before finishing the previous storyline, they could just add a text disclaimer before you take it if you didn't complete the previous MSQ.
    This is by far the best option IMHO.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    RMT wouldn't use it because it will likely cost money making RMT uses not profitable.
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    oh they would, they would mine and transfer all money off to lower lvl characters and preventing the high lvls from getting banned.

    then you really wouldnt know who they were.
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  8. #158
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    Ritza Solair
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    I personally see 2 potential problems with these "Skip 2.0 & get a lv50 Job" potions:
    1) if 4.0 doesn't require 3.0 story completion, only 2.0
    2) lack of being able to actually play 2.0's story if u wanted to later (unless they add quest replay funtion)

    As of right now, without 4.0 added to game, all these potion's do is give u a lv50 & auto-beat all 2.0 (IE: not a lv60 & NO progress in 3.0, making curent expantion needed to be actually beaten normally). As for the "They won't know there class" problem we already have this without them (be it lazyness, Fate farming or POLD) as long as the potion ant giving them Max level & ALL Quests done for even current expansion they'll "Adapt & Learn or Give up & Quit" (most inconveniance I can see for this is frustrated "Senior"players having to wait on a replacement to them while leveling an Alt class in old/non-max Lv content)...

    Just figured I'd point out they give lv50 &/or 2.0 completion ONLY, I'll probably have a different viewpoint when 4.0 is added, that & their 2 (or technically 11) different buyable items not an all-in-1 (thou I can see that being a bundle on Chinese Cash shop by 5.0) I just think the biggest question is "What would this affect when 4.0 is added?" if they wait till 4.0 it gives SE time to think up a "countermesure" for access to 4.0 if used or added... I'm gona wait till then & make another opinion about this idea if its added at that time.
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    Last edited by The_NPC; 12-05-2016 at 09:58 PM.
    What some see as "distracted" is really "fathoming the unfathomable" - last words from an Ul'dahn Mercurial Chemister at the battle of Carteneau

  9. #159
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    Nizbalial Vegalia
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I just dont understand why someone would want to skip all the game just to go into the end game fast.

    I mean, there isn't even a propper end game right now. We have the raiding in normal dificulty, roulettes, Savage and Extreme and yet everything falls away when new ILVL items are set because of new content. It will be burned again in the first couple of days and the cycle of "there is nothing else to do" will begin anew. It will probably be that rythm over and over again until we reach the top level cap AND Square decides what kind of endgame we will face then. Heck, if you are not planing to do Savage or Extreme it isnt even neccesary to farm the top ILVL items right now, it will become useless in time.

    So, why the rush?

    Why to PAY a game to skip it?
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  10. #160
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    Momo Pounce
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Personally, for an alt character i can see why, you did all the story on your main class, and the post 50 lead up to HW is LONG and tedious, so being able to start an alt out in HW would be nice.

    I know you don't NEED an alt in this game, but you can and a lot of people like different race/sex so options are nice.

    (I have 3 alts and 2/3 are current with story line, one is 50 and not to HW yet and yeah, she likely wont be for some time )
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