Gods and Jobs

[grandm]

ok so i got to questions really

question 1
yoshi-p said after patch 1.20 there will be major changes to THM and CON. and at the end of it we will have no problem working out which will get black and which will get white mage. which do you think will get which?

question 2
we are told ifrit is a God. but ppl are always saying "thank the twelve." does this mean the twelve are the primals, and there are going to be twelve primal battles. or am i just adding 2 and 2 and coming up with 5?

[Answa]

ok so i got to questions really

question 1
yoshi-p said after patch 1.20 there will be major changes to THM and CON. and at the end of it we will have no problem working out which will get black and which will get white mage. which do you think will get which?

question 2
we are told ifrit is a God. but ppl are always saying "thank the twelve." does this mean the twelve are the primals, and there are going to be twelve primal battles. or am i just adding 2 and 2 and coming up with 5?

Question 1: Pure speculation is all we can give you. I hope, for the sake of the CNJ storyline, that we keep our connection with the Elements and turn into BLM. It would mean the smallest difference in terms of spell swaps and ability swaps, as well. But that's just me hoping.

Question 2: Ifrit is a Primal, which is likened as a "god" by the Amaalj'a. The Twelve have names, and we know them.

[Starlord]

ok so i got to questions really

question 1
yoshi-p said after patch 1.20 there will be major changes to THM and CON. and at the end of it we will have no problem working out which will get black and which will get white mage. which do you think will get which?

question 2
we are told ifrit is a God. but ppl are always saying "thank the twelve." does this mean the twelve are the primals, and there are going to be twelve primal battles. or am i just adding 2 and 2 and coming up with 5?

Question #1 Conjuer= White Mage Thau= Black Mage

Question #2 I truly Believe the Twelve are indeed the Primals aka Gods

[eruntalo]

The twelve are the gods that you pick from in character creation. Not the primals. Beastmen see them as gods, but not us.

[ellohwell]

ok so i got to questions really

question 1
yoshi-p said after patch 1.20 there will be major changes to THM and CON. and at the end of it we will have no problem working out which will get black and which will get white mage. which do you think will get which?

Thaumaturge should get WHM due to lore reasons, and Conjurer should get Black Mage, but ever since the dev team turnover, they've seen fit to butcher the lore of this game, so who even knows.

question 2
we are told ifrit is a God. but ppl are always saying "thank the twelve." does this mean the twelve are the primals, and there are going to be twelve primal battles. or am i just adding 2 and 2 and coming up with 5?

"The Twelve" are what Eorzeans believe in. They don't necessarily exist.

Primals aren't necessarily "gods", but certain people and beastmen put them on such a pedestal.

[grandm]

glad you guys have helped me clear up the primal/twelve issue. i did wonder why we would be trying to kill gods :P. and with black and white i hope con is black it just seems to make more sense to me

[Cichy]

I'd like to see the Tweleve in game especially goddess boobalicious here:

[Sephrick]

Question #1 Conjuer= White Mage Thau= Black Mage

I don't know. The more I think about it, the more CNJ/BLM, THM/WHM makes sense.

Thaumaturge lore deals with the balance of life and death. Even the god they idolize, Nald'thal, is a representation of balance.

Conjurer's lore is more focused on harmony with nature and harnessing the elements.

I really think they're going to give THM curative and DoT spells like poison and bio. The give CNJ the nukes and associated DoTs like rasp and such.

[Anonymoose]

Wow, lore is really falling behind in popularity, isn't it?

Eorzeans primarily follow what is referred to in-game as the "teachings of Nald," and worship a pantheon of 12 gods with complex relationships similar to that of ancient Greece (which the game itself is based on). Read up!

[Griss]

For question 2, you'd have to relate to religion in our world. Everyone's portrayal of God is different.

Now kinda related to question 1, I found in this interview on rpgamer; http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q4-2011/101811b.html that it's said you need Gladiator AND Marauder to 30 to open up the Paladin quests. Whether this was misheard or intentional I have no idea. Maybe White Mage and Black Mage could end up requiring both DoM leveled to some extent as well?

this is simultaneously correct and incorrect.

the batch of jobs that will be coming with .21 will be at a 1-1 rate ie one job per class that's all. there has how ever been mention that later down the line hybrid jobs such as Red Mage could be introduced that would require multiple classes to unlock. that opens up a whole new can of worms as far as jobs go.

Now as far as the second question, that's really kind of subjective isn't it? Some npc's refer to them as the eikons, demons posing as false gods.