Thread: 3.3 - how long has it been lorewise since 2.0?

Originally Posted by Cipher_Zaabiz

Also there was either a reference by one of the main npc's either nanamo, or the other 2 from uldah or gridania. Even the scions lalafell did mention something about it.

Sorry, I'm lost a bit. Reference to/about what?

At end of 3.3, didn't Edmond give a date for the end of the Dragonsong War?

Although that could just be me playing too much FF Type-0. They have a date for every event there. :-)

Originally Posted by Balphagor_

Not sure if anyone has went into this, but at the end of 3.3 they actually say that Estinien was taken/controlled by Nidhogg for only a few days.

So the end of 3.0 - the end of 3.3 is apparently only a few days long.

Makes sense, if a little rushed. A week or two is enough to cover two attempted assassinations, the Grand Melee and Nidhogg's 2nd invasion of Ishgard

Holiday events (like relic quests) tend to work on "meta time", referring to how many events of have passed since the release of the game regardless of the in-game canon chronology bubble. Look how many "new year" kabutos we have compared to (echoing an earlier post) how zero years have been added to how far back the Battle of Silvertear Skies or the summoning of Alexander were.

But in the case of The Rising, there's a bigger red flag: very little effort is made to conceal that the Wandering Minstrel himself is basically "In-Character" Naoki Yoshida, whether he's giving out mounts in 1.0, doling out buffs in the Beta, giving you non-canon challenge-variants of fights from the Rising Stones, showing up as a GM from an expo, or, yes, thanking you for playing his game on its anniversary.

We're talking about the same Wandering Minstrel that said:

Originally Posted by Wandering Minstrel"

In the days before the Calamity, I glimpsed a world beyond the void─a new world, birthed from the ashes of the old, delivered from darkness by the Bringer of Light. The giver of hope. You.

Is he literally saying that the dimension of A Realm Reborn is "across the void" from the dimension that 1.0 took place in? That the old dimension was really destroyed and its ashes really made this one? Or is he simply saying, "In the days [before we shut down the 1.0 servers], I glimpsed a [better game] beyond the [server outage] - a new [game], developed from the ashes of the [old game], [prevented from permanently flopping and never being heard from again thanks to people who continued to believe in its potential]."

I'm hesitant to read more into it than meta references, even the "years" bits (until the in-game reference-point dates change).

...Unless the "ten and three" worlds are all similar to the Source with subtle differences and Version 1.0 took place in a reflection that really was destroyed and we were sent here, to the original world, by Louisoix and that's why everything's different and now the Warriors of Darkness are back from the 1.0 variant world and the Minstrel was telling the truth all along! Someone get me Walter Bishop!