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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avera View Post
    This should apply to FC's as well. One house per FC. There's an FC that owns half of the houses in a ward on my server >:T
    I was under the impression that a single FC can only own one house.

    But the 'short names' for fc's aren't exclusive, any fc can have the same short name as any other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    I was under the impression that a single FC can only own one house.

    But the 'short names' for fc's aren't exclusive, any fc can have the same short name as any other.
    No, I've checked, its the same FC :T
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  3. #13
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avera View Post
    No, I've checked, its the same FC :T
    They're all separate FC's, they just have the same short name (which doesn't have to be unique).

    Each FC is already restricted to one house, but there's nothing to stop people levelling up multiple companies with the same short name to rank 6 so they can buy a house (which is what has happened here). If you view the details on each house you'll see each might have the same short name, but will have different actual names.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    I was under the impression that a single FC can only own one house.

    But the 'short names' for fc's aren't exclusive, any fc can have the same short name as any other.
    I'm guessing Avera is talking about Aeth. If so, yes they have multiple "alt" FC's for the sole purpose of owning multiple houses in the wards; hobby houses like "Night Club, Cafe, Reserve this place for your Eternal Bond reception. We can customize for you." etc. So while it's not the same FC it's a type of sub FC that operates under the main FC's alts. Back when they first did it their FC leader bragged about it on Reddit and got flamed. Not that it changed much, they still have like 5 houses for no reason in Lav Beds.

    They aren't the only FC that does this either, for example we have an FC in my ward that owns a Medium and Small right across for them just for decorating "welcome to the guest house! enjoy your stay"; they've been asked if they would sell it before so someone could get a personal house and the response from their leadership was basically "No it's mine" (so that 1 person holds at least 3 houses, 2 FC's + personal). This type of behaviour is seriously selfish when the housing resource is so limited.

    So again, 1 FC/1 Personal per account/server would go a long way in helping stop these type of shenanigans and opening up a few more plots for other FC's/individuals.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 06-28-2016 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    They aren't the only FC that does this either, for example we have an FC in my ward that owns a Medium and Small right across for them just for decorating "welcome to the guest house! enjoy your stay"; they've been asked if they would sell it before so someone could get a personal house and the response from their leadership was basically "No it's mine" (so that 1 person holds at least 3 houses, 2 FC's + personal). This type of behaviour is seriously selfish when the housing resource is so limited.
    On Famfrit, there's an FC called <Soul> or something like that that has not two... not five... but SIXTEEN houses in the Goblet. Possibly more, I lost track after finding 16 of them. I can't even fathom whether it's just one guy with two accounts and 8 alts each or whether he has a large group of friends who all decided to make alts with similar names. Most of the FCs owning the houses have 3 people in them and all the FC leaders had similar names.
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    As much as I can agree with you guys I will also have to disagree. This is a large pop server problem. There are those of us on lower pop servers that not only do not have this problem but also don't want these solutions. What about those players who intentionally go to lower pop servers because they like playing sally home maker? The patch came out 20 days ago. There are still houses on my server, although the number is dwindling. I feel once the apartments and/if Ishgard housing comes out it will be absolutely no problem for MOST of the servers for players to find housing. Find another solution, like fair plot selling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaJ View Post
    As much as I can agree with you guys I will also have to disagree. This is a large pop server problem. There are those of us on lower pop servers that not only do not have this problem but also don't want these solutions. What about those players who intentionally go to lower pop servers because they like playing sally home maker? The patch came out 20 days ago. There are still houses on my server, although the number is dwindling. I feel once the apartments and/if Ishgard housing comes out it will be absolutely no problem for MOST of the servers for players to find housing. Find another solution, like fair plot selling.
    Nope sorry, don't agree. There is literally not 1 single reason, regardless of what server they are on, that would justify 1 person owning multiple plots on a single account other than personal greed; which really blows for the rest of the community with such a limited resource.

    It could be because they like decorating and feel since there is no restriction in place they have the right to own as much property as they please, they might want multiple gardens, airships etc. That's still individual greed and that takes away from those who don't have housing; it is flat out inconsiderate and selfish.

    Yes, Ishgard apartments will help, yes the decay timer does somewhat help when it's active, all these things added together help but allowing 1 person to potentially own 8 houses per account is stupid.

    Another thing that should be added that might help, especially for players who do have multiple alts, is the ability to share their own personal house with their alts.

    What they should do imo, is grandfather anyone with multiple properties into their houses and change the rule structure to 1 personal/1 FC per account/server and if you lose one of your 2+ houses for w/e reason you won't be able to buy another.

    I also agree that they should put in some kind of plot selling feature to allow players to legally/fairly resell their plots if they don't want them anymore without having to wait the 45 days or w/e to get a % of their gil back.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 06-28-2016 at 05:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaJ View Post
    As much as I can agree with you guys I will also have to disagree. This is a large pop server problem. There are those of us on lower pop servers that not only do not have this problem but also don't want these solutions. What about those players who intentionally go to lower pop servers because they like playing sally home maker? The patch came out 20 days ago. There are still houses on my server, although the number is dwindling. I feel once the apartments and/if Ishgard housing comes out it will be absolutely no problem for MOST of the servers for players to find housing. Find another solution, like fair plot selling.
    So you're basically saying that you want players on high pop servers like mine to continue to struggle to get access to personal or even FC housing in a lot of cases, just so you can buy up multiple houses on your own server. Not gonna agree with you there regardless of server population. Others deserve a chance to access this content too. And higher pop servers certainly don't need to take a back seat to those with lower populations. If anything, I have seen it suggested numerous times that wards should be added according to the population of each server.
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    From recent Yoshida GameWatch interview.

    Furthermore, for FFXIV, since the requirement to buy land is to be level 50 on one job and to save enough gil, there is quite a high hurdle to be able to purchase land. So we should respect those players who have done enough to satisfy the conditions to purchase land on alternate characters.

    If these things continue, the housing system will become very overcrowded. Rather than viewing everyone as inherently bad, we'd rather allow as much freedom as possible to remain in the system. Additionally, after speaking with players and getting feedback from a majority, we can make provisions if we decide that certain things should not be allowed. So first, let's talk about it. I think there wouldn't be any problems if everyone would act ethically.
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...ch-Translation
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaJ View Post
    So, in a case like mine where I can only afford one sub but have two character (mine and my wife's) then only one of us should be able to decorate even though both were progressed enough and earned enough gil to support it?
    Sorry that I'm not replying to the topic itself, but I don't know if you're aware that account sharing is against the ToS and has the potential to get your entire account banned. What you do with your account is none of my business and is between you and SE, but I certainly wouldn't publicise you're sharing an account on the official forums.
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