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  1. #641
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Are you sure?
    Th facts is in the first 3 pages and repeating itself every time there is an exclusive items in China and Korean for past 4 years.
    His problems is he didn’t even read first 3 pages
    Moving the goalpost here. You said what I left in bold on top of "This is a really old discussion thread since June 2016 of 60+ pages." Not the first 3 pages.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    I know that there are exclusive items for China and Korea and also the reasons behind it, but still, I am baffled each time...

    I just read that the Korean version gets a certain snap emote. Really, SE? Making something that was asked for by the community exclusive for a small part only?

    One can only hope that doesn't end up like that dress, never being avaiable for us... please do better with the wave.

    Edit: Seems I was mistaken. Found some footage and there are differences between the Emote and what I thought to be the origin of it.
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    Last edited by RicaRuin; 09-02-2020 at 08:24 PM.

    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Can you please not necro-bump threads. None of the early discussion is relevant anymore. Regional exclusives are going to exist for what are basically independent releases of the game. I'd imagine players in other regions are probably upset we get updates earlier than they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    Can you please not necro-bump threads. None of the early discussion is relevant anymore. Regional exclusives are going to exist for what are basically independent releases of the game. I'd imagine players in other regions are probably upset we get updates earlier than they do.
    That shouldn't happen.
    Good that they necroed this thread.

    All services should be the same through all regions. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    All services should be the same through all regions. Period.
    And that's not gonna happen because the chinese and korean servers are completely seperate, I assume due to laws in China, dunno why in Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    And that's not gonna happen because the chinese and korean servers are completely seperate, I assume due to laws in China, dunno why in Korea.
    Then shut them down. Cannot even offer the same service.
    Good thing they never decided for releasing Latin American servers and a Spanish localization, on retrospective, i cannot imagine how much more awful their service would be to us than the rest of the world.
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  7. #647
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    Then shut them down. Cannot even offer the same service.
    Good thing they never decided for releasing Latin American servers and a Spanish localization, on retrospective, i cannot imagine how much more awful their service would be to us than the rest of the world.
    Square doesn’t run the Korean and Chinese versions and they do not produce the content these versions get on their mogstations. Both their regional service and mogstation items are run and created by third parties. Square often brings some of the things those third parties make over to the main version of the game, but not always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Square doesn’t run the Korean and Chinese versions and they do not produce the content these versions get on their mogstations. Both their regional service and mogstation items are run and created by third parties. Square often brings some of the things those third parties make over to the main version of the game, but not always.
    That sounds like awful for everyone.
    Sounds like a lot of money for SE.

    And people justify this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    That sounds like awful for everyone.
    Sounds like a lot of money for SE.

    And people justify this.
    What are you on about? It’s already been mentioned that China and Korea have specific laws regarding online games that require this set up. Those third parties that run those versions decided on their own to make their own cash shop items. Square decided to license some of them over to global version. In Korea, for example, you used to need the Korean version of a SSN to register an account for an online game but now I think you just need a Korean phone number. And China, is just China.

    The alternative would have been that we don’t get any of their cash shop things at all. They’re not made by SE and not made for the global audience. There’s far better examples than this for why SE can be sketchy and this has nothing really to do with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    That sounds like awful for everyone.
    Sounds like a lot of money for SE.

    And people justify this.
    It's not so much justifying it as it is explaining the reasoning.

    When a third party company takes over publishing/management of a game, they typically do so while tailoring certain aspects to a specific market. Many Korean MMOs function the same way when they're brought to the US. They know payment models for certain things won't fly in the US like they would in Korea, so they adjust for their specific market. It's one of the reasons MMOs began going to a F2P model over there, they know that in their market cash shops or a pay to win mentally isn't nearly as stigmatized as it is in other countries.

    We also don't know if any of the profit from those Chinese/Korean exclusives comes back to SE. Some may or it may all go to the company running the game in that region and SE sees that as the cost of being able to do business there. One of the reasons the previously exclusive items have come over to us is that they have negotiated terms to sell those items in other markets.

    Now I'm not saying that I like this, but the company I work for has regional divisions as well and there's similar things. Certain products they've had in the East Asian and European regions for years have just started coming over to the US markets because what those specific markets wanted. We would have loved to bring the products over sooner, but the market wasn't right in the US to do it yet. It's not a 100% comparison, but what I am saying is that it's not as simple an issue as some may think.
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