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  1. #331
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    Well they get their patches a little later than we do. People are always talking about how they get less content than we do but what exactly are they missing (the gold saucer one was a mistake, they do have it). Some monster models are different and they pay different than us but that is all that I know about. Can someone say what is also different?

    And I dont see them having a larger cash shop as something negative. Unlike us they have all the minions and mounts even those from 1.0 if I remember it correctly. They can also just buy the carbuncle minions there instead of having to buy merchandise. As a minion collector I kinda envy them..(Lets not talk too much about the butler/maid set that a lot European players wont be able to get that was just released there in the cash shop, yet this is till now not possible for the rest of the playerbase..) So they truly need to have a really big cut in their content for me too feel less angry at all those exclusive items..Also lets not forget that we only get those items now thanks to our complaints. This shows me that they had planned them as complete exclusives at the beginning and only changed their approach after all those posts and threads..

    @Mimilu: Yes they are run by another company but its SE that owns the game and they created all those exclusive content. If they dont own the rights to those items anymore they could not have given us those items now..but even if they have some sort of contract that says that those items must stay exclusive for a time..they could just simply tell us this. Yet in the end we can only ever hope to get them..there is no 100% guarantee that we will get them later.

    [And at the same time they take so long to just create a male version of the bunny outfit..it kinda feels like we are a second-rate player to them..]
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    Last edited by Alleo; 02-06-2017 at 08:03 PM.

  2. #332
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    Am I just imagining it... or was there a mention of the Chinese mount coming to our digital shores?
    Perhaps it was a 'If there is enough demand' type of comment but I just wanted to make sure...
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  3. #333
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    Am I just imagining it... or was there a mention of the Chinese mount coming to our digital shores?
    Perhaps it was a 'If there is enough demand' type of comment but I just wanted to make sure...
    The Sun Wukong cloud mount. It's in the data files for our version of the game as of patch 3.5 so we should be seeing it soon.
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  4. #334
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    As for the other comments about how SE works with releasing this content in other countries, I'm not ignoring it, it's just that other people have already answered it so I didn't see the need to do so.

    A short TLDR of how these games work in China and Korea would be this:

    -- SE still runs and owns the game, it is simply released into the market through a host company who has access to those markets.
    -- Host company requests some type of 'deal sweetener" to attract people to the product and increase their chance of profit (this is assumed on my part)
    -- The in-house development team for FFXIV creates the requested items
    -- Eventually a new exclusive comes out, and the old exclusives come over to the JPN/NA/EU version (this is assumed on my part)

    Common misconceptions about the Chinese and Korean game and exclusives:

    -- That they get all their items for free. They do not. A lot of the items we get in our Cash Shop were only available in their Cash shop as well.
    -- That they do not have the Gold Saucer. It's been confirmed several times by people who play the Chinese version that they do, in fact, have the Gold Saucer.
    -- That they have less content than we do. This is a 'kinda' type of thing. Because these versions were released after our version of the game, they ARE a patch cycle behind but, to our knowledge are not missing any major items, story or event. They even have access to old 1.0 items.
    -- That there is a separate development/art team for these versions. There isn't.
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  5. #335
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    The Sun Wukong cloud mount. It's in the data files for our version of the game as of patch 3.5 so we should be seeing it soon.
    Ah! Great, I appreciate your swift and informed answer.
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  6. #336
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    I got the first screenshots of the outfit in the game, I also confirm that all parts are dyeable!
    For the moment I do not have screenshots of other dyed parts (only the skirt) nor any photos of hyur/au ra female, as soon as I find some edit the post placing them







    Edit 1:
    Female miqo'te and dyed.
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    Last edited by Yasmina; 02-08-2017 at 02:14 AM.

  7. #337
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    Hope that gets brought over soon.
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  8. #338
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I still don't consider it fair at all. It's unfortunate that those countries censor their games so harshly, but that's not our faults here in the west. Depriving others of something to make someone else feel better isn't a good practice. Even if the depriving is technically just delayed for us.
    I'm sorry that you see it as depravity, but it isn't, it is compesation. You can't have the superior version of the game and the compensation that the inferior version gets. The fact that you even get the outfits at all is simply good will on SEs part, and an analysis of demand.
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  9. #339
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    "Oh look...there's a thread making a request for something." *insert snarky comment*

    If you took a moment to read before tossing out some sass, you would see that this thread is requesting these items based on the fact that the developers asked for feedback during the live letter.

    I guess providing feedback and wanting something is throwing a tantrum these days? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    right but the problem is that the second someone sees something they dont get they drop to ground and throw a fit crying their eyes out till someone gives up and tosses them a cookie. they eat the cookie or hold on to it once it's stale they toss it aside but still hand on to it then repeats for next cookie
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  10. #340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I'm sorry that you see it as depravity, but it isn't, it is compesation. You can't have the superior version of the game and the compensation that the inferior version gets. The fact that you even get the outfits at all is simply good will on SEs part, and an analysis of demand.
    And yet somehow barely anyone can tell me what exactly makes these version so much inferior than ours to need so many items? Gold Saucer is there, they can even buy the maid/butler set from mog station and stuff from 1.0. They get patches later but that does not change the content itself. So I am really curious what exactly makes it acceptable that they get one item after the other. I mean this is not one item per year kind of deal. And we only get them now because we complained about it.

    @Blackbird1: If you find criticism as "throwing yourself to the ground and cry" well than we are all whiners in the end, since there will be always something you want.
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