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    About achievement to get ADS mount

    Why is this achievement is the only one which locked the win on other GC while the Seal Rock's Field Commander Set is literally "Guide any of GC to win" so all win from all GC merge into one (Don't know about Fields of Glory but I bet it's like Seal Rock's)?
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    No, the Fields of Glory mount is not GC locked...SE logic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Its not the only one field commander set is gc locked too (atleast when I did it) only the field of glory mount is not gc locked
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    The original ADS mount was the first PvP mount to do this. You have to remember that the mount achievement came out in patch ... 2.5...ish? A damn long time ago, in any case. Like everything else 'PvP' back then, SE didn't really care about it or put any thought into it when they implemented it. At the time, the FFxiv corners of the internet literally exploded with people who were RAGING about the way it was being handled. That tremendous amount of backlash was probably the reason they never did this again.

    The real question, is why did they never patch the first ADS mount to mirror the way the new one is handled? I seem to recall SE providing a very, VERY, weak excuse for why this was never done back when Slaughter was released, but I don't recall what their exact reason was. It was flimsy, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    The real question, is why did they never patch the first ADS mount to mirror the way the new one is handled? I seem to recall SE providing a very, VERY, weak excuse for why this was never done back when Slaughter was released, but I don't recall what their exact reason was. It was flimsy, though.
    I think they didn't do that, because they for some reason, can't. As in, I think that the moment a patch goes live the achievements added in said patch become finalized and static. I think the same also applies to other areas such as the Relic (can't program the game to require less books, NQ items, less materia, etc) an Quest (related to the above with Zodiac needing HQ items) maybe also trade in for items sincdieing how the HQ item for the first 2 Master tome sets and the Anima items still need HQ items (time will tell on that).

    Point is, SE is unable to nerf achievements for some reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I think they didn't do that, because they for some reason, can't. As in, I think that the moment a patch goes live the achievements added in said patch become finalized and static.
    Unfortunately, I don't think that's the case. For one, I'm pretty sure that they've coded changes to Achievements in the past. and, quite frankly, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. They have access to the entire game's code. Technically, there really shouldn't be anything that they can't do. Another point is that they've also said that they've made adjustments in the past; though, I can't confirm if they actually did.

    The example that immediately comes to mind was the original achievements for "Between a Rock and a Hard Place" as well as "Behind Enemy Lines." If I'm not mistaken, SE was questioned on these two achievements because they have identical wording but have different conditions. When an SE dev response came through, they basically told us that it was a miscommunication between the original JP text and the English team. They also said that the original JP text in May (at the time) had the same wording but was "ninja fixed" in July. I have no idea if that is true or not, because I don't have a JP version of the game. However, at best that means that they lied to us, and at worst, that means that they can implement changes and simply chose not to.

    Personally, it doesn't bother me one way or another in regards to this specific achievement, but I do find it a little concerning when the Dev team shows a lack of interest in making adjustments for sustainability or fixing longstanding issues, no matter how small those issues are. It betrays a lack of commitment to the players, which is kind of sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
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    Changing text is one thing, changing code so that wins in Maelstrom, Adders and Flames all count towards the 200 wins (as well as reducing the amount of wins required) is another thing entirely. On the other hand, they did allow the ROG quests to count for the achievement for clearing the level 30 class quests, on the other hand that seems like a relatively simple fix and nether the achievement for getting all 2.0 Jobs 50 or the one for getting all the Relics were changed to require a level 50 NIN or Yoshimistsu
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    Even worse is the Field commander set is locked strictly to seal rock, not field of glory, Field doesn't even count for the set...whoever didn't consider this should reconsider it....greatly. I sent in a ticket about it..and possible suggestions..and they told me to make a thread, which I have, already a few times..so can you guys please do something about this. Seal is dead, and Field of glory killed it. Shameless self promotion if you want to add suggestions for them to read. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...83#post3744983
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality View Post
    Even worse is the Field commander set is locked strictly to seal rock, not field of glory, Field doesn't even count for the set...whoever didn't consider this should reconsider it....greatly. I sent in a ticket about it..and possible suggestions..and they told me to make a thread, which I have, already a few times..so can you guys please do something about this. Seal is dead, and Field of glory killed it. Shameless self promotion if you want to add suggestions for them to read. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...83#post3744983
    Please stop posting this on every thread you say you farmed it 3-4 months and still havent got 100wins? You can easily do 100 wins in a week. Also its good its a reward for seal rock no point doing it for all modes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Please stop posting this on every thread you say you farmed it 3-4 months and still havent got 100wins? You can easily do 100 wins in a week. Also its good its a reward for seal rock no point doing it for all modes.
    Is Lich a japanese data center server that you are able to get 100 frontline matches in in a week, let alone 100 seal rock wins lol?
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