Possible level/story jumps....really?

[Kaizencorr]

Yoshi answered this in his response....; the western audience complained about it so this is our solution. Instead of accepting that reality as a part of the western society, I see people offering the most absurd counters. "Make two year old content more engaging," "Cut out aspects of the content for future implementation." Why not stop knee jerking everything related to playing a game in order to play more of the game. And instead of complaining about a low population of people you may never run into, help them when you do run into them.

I'm fine with whatever the game developers feel is necessary to curb new people leaving in droves after their free trial is over.

[Xenosan]

Is it new players leaving in droves or players done with the end game treadmill ?

My opinion on a jumping potion depends entirely on the details about how they work that we(I) don't know. If it worked like an super-EXP-Bonus buff, rewarded after certain initial MSQ quests that let you jump directly over the hours MSQ fetch quests straight to the next instance quest (complete Sastasha, defeat Ifrit in the Bowl of Embers, etc), then I'm all for it. Does it do more, do less? Don't really know what to expect.

[Windi]

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I think the "part of the western society" bit is severely generalized. If literally everyone in my society rejects any game that involves some kind of grinding or mundane tasks, then why are games like The Sims series, Minecraft or Terraria so successful?

There is nothing wrong with analyzing old content, btw, because I believe this is an issue with the core of the game. Generally, players need to be convinced that whatever their doing is worth their time, and it's a difficult thing to pull off because people typically turn to games as a means for escapism or passing by free time, and when you have a game that's difficult to distinguish from doing a household chore, people get turned away.

The problem with this "level jump" or "make it like WoW" solution is that it really doesn't come across as being fully thought-through.

[Niwashi]

The only thing that I would like to see changed, like some suggested, to give access to classes that are currently available only in Ishgard from the regular cities of ARR. Anything else, doesnt really matter as far as I am concerned.

That much even I agree with, and I'm against any kind of skipping or streamlining of levels or story. The story gating should be limited to not allowing the later story and content until completing the earlier story. Job unlocks shouldn't depend on it. The Heavensward jobs and the next expansion's jobs as well should be moved/placed into ARR regions and available to anyone of a suitable level and with the corresponding expansion on their account.

[SnowLiore]

I started this game 2 weeks after 2.0 launch. I am currently working on my 3rd playthrough of the game after taking breaks here and there. I've played all the mainstream MMOs including wow. Yoshi is talking with people who play wow but there's a problem.. This idea works ONLY in 1 class per character games (like wow) you know why? Because there's no real reason to level multiple characters here, exept to experience the content again. In wow You can jump into an expansion there and know what's going on. This game, the story is linear and all interconnected. The level boost is not really a necessity here. Your char saves all the levels of other classes you've leveled. Having a class at 30/50/60 gives you an exp boost to all others you level. You've got leves, fates, dungeons, roulette, TONS of quests... there's lots of ways to level. The only reason I do multiple playthroughs is to play with friends I've made and converted to the game.

[Clethoria]

So tell me, why are people so concerned with "incompetent" players? Is it really so hard to take 30 seconds to say "use your stun ability here" or "run when they cast this". Novice Network exists too, if you really don't want a new player in your L337 circle for endgame content, then explain why and teach them or you can always leave. I always build full parties with friends so I don't have to hold speed runners back. I know how bad I am at my job, so I stick with people who will put up with it. Can I get better? Eh, maybe. But that's not what I'm concerned with when playing.

[JunseiKei]

There's a ton of bad players that already go through dungeons and story. That's not going to change. Adding in a "jump potion" will just mean they can get to other things faster. Both the good (willing to learn) and the bad (stubborn ones that say stupid things like you don't pay my sub).

[rxnin]

Similarly, just like how another player purchasing a $30 mount doesn't affect MY gameplay, jumping potions won't either. Other NEW players who want to enjoy FFXIV and use jumping potions are welcomed. Whether they experience the story or not, doesn't affect my gameplay one way or another.

As for those claiming "incompetent players," it literally doesn't take more than a day to learn a class. There is so much resources dedicated to each of the classes that they can look it up and learn it if they take out some time. And since we are a friendly community, politely giving advice about a class doesn't take more than an Eorzean minute.

I think expanding the playerbase with new players and bringing them up to speed will keep FFXIV going strong! #STORMBLOOD #CHOCOBROLIFE #GILLIONAIRESCLUB

[Greedalox]

There is so much resources dedicated to each of the classes that they can look it up and learn it if they take out some time. And since we are a friendly community, politely giving advice about a class doesn't take more than an Eorzean minute.

It's pretty apparent most players don't use resources outside the game and real talk, politely giving advice is often viewed as treading into Elitist territory.

I don't know if it's a pride/ego thing, but being offered advice can be misread as judgement for doing something wrong, which in essense is exactly what it is. Some people don't like to be judged ;_;

[Frowny]

It is more people jumping into "omg I'm being attacked!" when 90% of the time, a person just goes "hey, do this and that and this is your basic rotation". Or, we have the very poor excuse of "I play how I want".

I don't mind people skipping the story to get up to speed as... lets face it, braindead players pop into A9-12 fairly often so it can't get much worse.