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    Greedalox's Avatar
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by rxnin View Post
    There is so much resources dedicated to each of the classes that they can look it up and learn it if they take out some time. And since we are a friendly community, politely giving advice about a class doesn't take more than an Eorzean minute.
    It's pretty apparent most players don't use resources outside the game and real talk, politely giving advice is often viewed as treading into Elitist territory.

    I don't know if it's a pride/ego thing, but being offered advice can be misread as judgement for doing something wrong, which in essense is exactly what it is. Some people don't like to be judged ;_;
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 12-12-2016 at 04:03 AM.

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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Faerie
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    It is more people jumping into "omg I'm being attacked!" when 90% of the time, a person just goes "hey, do this and that and this is your basic rotation". Or, we have the very poor excuse of "I play how I want".

    I don't mind people skipping the story to get up to speed as... lets face it, braindead players pop into A9-12 fairly often so it can't get much worse.
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    Tal Young
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Can we get a jump potion for ilvls as well? I enjoyed the story but grinding tomestones for gear was a bit boring. Would be a much better game if I could just buy gear on the shop, then I could get straight into the end game with my friends. .
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    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Can we get a jump potion for ilvls as well? I enjoyed the story but grinding tomestones for gear was a bit boring. Would be a much better game if I could just buy gear on the shop, then I could get straight into the end game with my friends. .
    Might want to find a different game cause if you don't like it now you won't like further end cause that pretty much the whole end game treadmill. Outside of raiding it run dungeons get tomes to get gear, rinse and repeat in future patches. Plus even to raid you need certain gear to be the ilvl requirements so yea that pretty much the whole game right there.
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    Last edited by Lexia; 12-12-2016 at 09:01 AM.

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    Lokier Ame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Might want to find a different game cause if you don't like it now you won't like further end cause that pretty much the whole end game treadmill. Outside of raiding it run dungeons get tomes to get gear, rinse and repeat in future patches. Plus even to raid you need certain gear to be the ilvl requirements so yea that pretty much the whole game right there.
    I'm pretty sure they were using humour, that emote at the end looks a bit sarcastic to me for his statement to be an actual opinion.


    On a side note, why is : and o the emote command for ... who smiles with their mouth open like that.

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    Oh...
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    Last edited by Lokier; 12-12-2016 at 10:00 AM.

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    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    I'm pretty sure they were using humour, that emote at the end looks a bit sarcastic to me for his statement to be an actual opinion.
    Perhaps, I could see but sadly I'm sure there someone out there with that point of view that is serious about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Perhaps, I could see but sadly I'm sure there someone out there with that point of view that is serious about it.
    I shudder to think, lmao.
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    Fyce Alvey
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    61 pages of max level people debating over something they have no utility for.

    Guys, not only you are biased as hell, but you also don't have the data regarding new player's retention rate. If a "jump potion" is something that will bring more people to stick with the game, then it'll be implemented.
    It's as simple as that.
    Your feedback on the matter is almost irrelevant, since you're not the target audiance for it, and that you won't be affected by it in any meaningful way.

    So, just try to do what you should do, which is not caring about it, and rejoice of finally being able to bring that one reluctant friend without having to say "don't worry dude, you only have 200 hours of fedex quests before yo can play with us!".
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    So, just try to do what you should do, which is not caring about it, and rejoice of finally being able to bring that one reluctant friend without having to say "don't worry dude, you only have 200 hours of fedex quests before yo can play with us!".
    You're allowed to play with your friends in dungeon content before they do all their story quests BTW.

    Your friends might be more apt to stay if you didn't put the whole burden on them to hit 60 and get decked out before they get to see your smiling face.
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    Maybelline Charmers
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    I think what really depresses me is that a jump potion does not address the core problem with the bloat. Sure, it allows the bypassing of it, but there will still be lots of new players not using it, getting bogged down by poor design and fluff that will ultimately drive some away.
    Regardless if they add a potion or not, this must be addressed for the good of the game.

    SWTOR had a similar problem and a tight budget to fix it with, and they managed to make a workable system by opening up choices on how you progress through the game.
    Using the context of this game so people can understand it:
    The core 1-50 remained unchanged except a big boost to MSQ XP so you didn't have to do any side stuff at all, and at 50, you had a choice of heading straight to HW, or play the stuff in between, and once finishing HW, you could head straight to Stormblood.
    There's a warning popup letting you know about missing some key parts of the story by skipping, and because that game has a lot of choices, they will be made in a default light or dark manner if you decide to skip.
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