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    Voltyblast's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melondra View Post
    Here is the answer to that. Why should another player have acess to stuff that it took you years to get to while they get there instantly.
    Are you implying that following the game's story is "work"?

    I mean with the exception of level skip (because I DON'T agree with level potions and whatnot: that should remain untouched), last time I checked a "story" should be a pleasant thing, something you do because you like it and fully enjoy and not because you're forced to follow it.

    All I'm saying is, if following a story is supposed to be "work" then it's even more reasonable that people who DON'T enjoy the story want to skip it entirely don't you think?
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 06-20-2016 at 09:33 AM.

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    Zara Ida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melondra View Post
    Why should another player have acess to stuff that it took you years to get to while they get there instantly. It make all your hard work worthless.
    Do you really consider playing a game 'hard work'?
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    The major difference between WoW and FF14 is that despite the linked stories in WoW, each expansion is practically its own thing. To make sense of 14, you'd need to know what the hell is going on prior to this ritual or that war breaking out. There's too much call back and links to prior content in 14 to simply enable to someone to skip a major chunk of it, without falling almost entirely out of the loop as to what's going on. Hell, even raid content has its own purpose to the main story of the game, despite its lack of mention.
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    Last edited by CheshirePuss; 06-23-2016 at 07:20 PM.

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    Even though I'm against this ideas, but like it or not it will happens. Why is people suprised by this? You know this will happen eventually since they added the Cash Shop. A look back at the History it look like they are testing the water to see how far they can push it.


    What really got on my nerve is that Yoshi yet again lied. He said "No pay to win ever in cash shop." I don't know how much pay to win it can get that instantly boost you to max level, handed you all the raid gear and skip every single quest in the game, not only that but they give you a gils.

    I'm getting really tired of the excused "oh WoW did it so we are gonna do it too!" This make me really missed 1.0. Sure it was sloppy and clunky, but now why does every mmorpg have to follow WoW. Sure, it's the biggest P2P Sub game out there right now, but why not do something unique to beat it so WoW people can move over here. Instead of just another WoW clone where people already invest a tons of time in WoW, why would they ever move to FFXIV?
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    Last edited by Tisharu; 06-24-2016 at 09:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    With exception of people not learning class, why would you care if someone skips story and/levels?
    Because as someone who is currently forced to do the MSQ(See on the left I am Lv52, thats my main) it is making me respect the game, the whole dev team has the story writers respect too and I feel immersed and like I am genuinely playing an RPG not a WoW clone where non-RPG fans teleport to all the content and rarely speak.
    Jumping potions I would likely not use but then feel bad either way, like if I used them I will feel like I am missing content, if I didnt I would feel I am wasting time, it creates a dilemna.

    It also brings in a different crowd of people, you know.. I am not talking casuals thats fine but the whiney type who want things easy and should probably be playing a different genre as they cant appreciate a sense of achievement due to being time constrained.
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    Last edited by MaFi0s0; 08-04-2016 at 12:42 AM.
    I Can’t Believe It, Miqo'te got some ass, I wanna see it. Roegadyn got a ass, It ain’t a secret.

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    Here is a novel idea. 2 or 3 expansions in; discard the 2.0 story and replace it with one that makes sense with the current timeline. Every game I have ever played suffered from this. It made you feel like you're playing in a time machine.

    You can't invest time into this with every expansion. However if you're going to overhaul gameplay to a point the earlier content makes no contextual sense: I see no point in maintaining that content. Our combat is getting a major overhaul with this expansion.

    The duties from 2.0 were designed with our old combat system in mind.
    Why can level 1-59 players not help out Al Amigo? WoW attempted that with Cata. Went poorly because they tried painting a new landscape over an old one. Poorly.

    Want to border ruin your game? Allow players to skip what made the game great. Learning the game in an environment designed to teach it while enjoying it. Overhaul the game, it's combat and most of it's systems? Overhaul your content delivery system to match. Including the content that you're trying to convince your new players to continue to pay and play.
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    Last edited by LefeinNoel; 12-13-2016 at 08:47 AM.
    I like beating the dents out of my shield using my helmet. Sometimes I forget to take the helmet off first.

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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by LefeinNoel View Post
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    So basically, remake the game again again for A Realm Re-Reborn. Would take more time and money than the game itself most likely and the combat system isn't being remade from scratch. The devs are refining jobs so that there's less skill bloat and rotations will be easier to execute. The way we fight won't really change. Then there's also the issue of titles and items you could only get from 2.X that are gone forever with your idea of redoing 2.0, which in turn will have people whining about how they couldn't get the items (heck, to this day we still get some people demanding that all 1.0 content should be unlocked).
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    Edyth Angelheart
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    Force level jumpers to live on their own little dystopian server...

    and watch them flail and scamper about helplessly. Please don't hurt the general population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edyth View Post
    and watch them flail and scamper about helplessly. Please don't hurt the general population.
    Ok, but only if we can have hardcore raiders and PVPers in their own servers as well. I don't want people invading my safe space.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Ok, but only if we can have hardcore raiders and PVPers in their own servers as well. I don't want people invading my safe space.
    That server is called Gilgamesh
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