Possible level/story jumps....really?

[FoxyAreku]

Because MMOs are a genre made to be played with friends, and the story is a solo experience that is 90% filler to begin with.

It's already kinda ridiculous the amount of story you have to get through to get to the relevant content atm. Don't get me wrong, it's a good story (from leviathan onward...) but there's too much filler and pointless stuff, and if someone just wants to play with their friends, they're just going to skip all the cutscenes anyway.

It's not - because I'll happily wager that a lot of people worried about this change have seen exactly how a similar affair played out in WoW. It was one of the main factors as to why I lost interest in WoW - because along with many other design decisions it paved the way for the developers to gut content by making it increasingly optional and irrelevant. I do not want to see a similar situation play out with FFXIV - especially so early on in the game's life.

It's a two way street.

Do you want everything to be optional and 'irrelevant', or do you want everything story related to be so easy a braindead monkey could do it?

I prefer the former.

[bass9020]

Because MMOs are a genre made to be played with friends, and the story is a solo experience that is 90% filler to begin with.

It's already kinda ridiculous the amount of story you have to get through to get to the relevant content atm. Don't get me wrong, it's a good story (from leviathan onward...) but there's too much filler and pointless stuff.

To a new player all story is relevant. But it seems they have learned from 2.0 about fetch/filler quests, look at patch 3.1-3.3 the MSQs have been very short with more cutscenes. They have also had less things locked to the MSQs and have put them in side quest chains.

[FoxyAreku]

To a new player all story is relevant. But it seems they have learned from 2.0 about fetch/filler quests, look at patch 3.1-3.3 the MSQs have been very short with more cutscenes. They have also had less things locked to the MSQs and have put them in side quest chains.

Yeah, like I said, the story from leviathan onward is decent to good. But that leveling story needs to be trimmed, you could cut out about half of it and no one would even know the difference, that's how much filler there is.

[SinisterJointss]

My opinion on this is simple..

Just make every zone reachable by foot (meaning ishgard) keep the quests level locked not story locked.

[ADVSS]

With exception of people not learning class, why would you care if someone skips story and/levels?

i dont know, probably because its a big majority of this game? Maybe? also a slap in the face to veterans whove been playing for years and levelled their classes the way this game intended? I mean really why play an rpg, if A - you hate levelling and getting stronger and B - nah i hate story focused games.

[Zojha]

I mean really why play an rpg, if A - you hate levelling and getting stronger and B - nah i hate story focused games.

Why play a multiplayer game if you cannot directly join the others in the relevant content?

It's an MMO-RPG after all, which means you'll have to consider both sides. Which is why I really don't care much if the story becomes skip-able, I just feel the leveling should remain for now, since you get your abilities at a rather decent pace to slowly learn your class as you go.

[ADVSS]

Why play a multiplayer game if you cannot directly join the others in the relevant content?

It's an MMO-RPG after all, which means you'll have to consider both sides. Which is why I really don't care much if the story becomes skip-able, I just feel the leveling should remain for now, since you get your abilities at a rather decent pace to slowly learn your class as you go.

i agree i dont care too much about the skipping but levelling is so fast and easy in this game, that someone shouldnt be dissuaded because theyre not 60 2 hours into the game. The biggest criticism with msq is how un group oriented it is, and i dont know if story is to be skipped maybe access to story primals/raids from 2.x/3.x being locked behind optional completion idk where youd draw the line honestly, but i feel like they should leave a little something for people who have been playing and supporting the game since launch or even heavensward, maybe having those badass ponies and glamours and birds being locked behind story would be enough idk

[Voltyblast]

I mean really why play an MMOrpg, if A - you hate levelling and getting stronger and B - nah i hate story focused games.

Corrected that for you.

And since we're talking about MMORPGs, the biggest factor of the game is always gameplay, whether if it's story based or not. I mean there is a reason why FFXIV 1.0 failed, and I'm pretty sure it's the gameplay.

So yeah, while I don't agree with the potion, making the story skipable won't change anything: you still follow your story, while we play the game how we want, and everyone is happy. No need for a potion.

[ADVSS]

Corrected that for you.

And since we're talking about MMORPGs, the biggest factor of the game is always gameplay, whether if it's story based or not. I mean there is a reason why FFXIV 1.0 failed, and I'm pretty sure it's the gameplay.

So yeah, while I don't agree with the potion, making the story skipable won't change anything: you still follow your story, while we play the game how we want, and everyone is happy. No need for a potion.

I never suggested forcing them through story directly, but if its skippable, they could you know, make some new starter quests that are more relevant. not shocked by the mmo "fix" but current story feels alot like solo play anyway. So make new levelling story that can be more group involved(ie not dropping party for instances etc) msq current formula isnt very "mmo" which is why i left it out. lol not shocked by the fix though saw that coming a mile away. thanks for the chuckle

[Melondra]

With exception of people not learning class, why would you care if someone skips story and/levels?

Here is the answer to that. Why should another player have acess to stuff that it took you years to get to while they get there instantly. It make all your hard work worthless. Doing it for older raids is one thing but for the main story no. People who progressed to that point deserve there right to be there.

Its the attitude like that is the reason why ARR economy is tanking and has tanked since Launch.