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    Marcellus_Cassius's Avatar
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    Marcellus Cassius
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I'm all for it, why does it bother you? Cause now someone can play endgame faster than it took you? Doesn't bother me, the more people we have the better, and if that means somebody's friend needs a ride here and there so they can enjoy the game together then so be it.
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    Rysir Arcalane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus_Cassius View Post
    I'm all for it, why does it bother you? Cause now someone can play endgame faster than it took you? Doesn't bother me, the more people we have the better, and if that means somebody's friend needs a ride here and there so they can enjoy the game together then so be it.
    It would bother me because it adds people fresh out the gate who literally have no idea what they are doing to the upper areas of the game when its bad enough when there are people who have played for a year(s) and still dont know how to play and everyone knows just how fun that is.

    And Im sure that if someone payed to have the game level for them and auto complete the story that same person would moan for an item to complete raids for them as well.

    If you ran into someone who bought a story complete, all jobs 60 account and never played before this story skip and level skip item would be exactly like that with the exception of being fully geared.
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    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    Judah Brandt
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Since everyone keeps citing the whole "get to endgame to play with friends" as a completely logical reason for this stupid idea, could someone please point out the current feature that is preventing them from running content with the new player, their friend? I wasn't aware that so many player's level sync option was broken. Y'all need to file a support ticket. Seriously, there is so much to do in the game that is more exciting than a two dungeon roulette. If that's the amazing endgame experience you're rushing your buddy to while ignoring the 52 other dungeons and trials in the game relevant to THEM I'd have to check your motivations.
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    Seekret Baybees
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    Since everyone keeps citing the whole "get to endgame to play with friends" as a completely logical reason for this stupid idea, could someone please point out the current feature that is preventing them from running content with the new player, their friend? I wasn't aware that so many player's level sync option was broken. Y'all need to file a support ticket. Seriously, there is so much to do in the game that is more exciting than a two dungeon roulette. If that's the amazing endgame experience you're rushing your buddy to while ignoring the 52 other dungeons and trials in the game relevant to THEM I'd have to check your motivations.
    Nail on the head. You bring a new friend into the game? Awesome! Now show him the ropes and play with him! Don't whine about his journey to get to your current level of content. Selfish.
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    NolLacnala's Avatar
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    Nol Lac'nala
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    Jump to level cap, murder everyone in Mhach with stacked meteors (b^^)b
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    Saito Hikari
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    I would be fully against any way to artificially level jump, if only because having such a feature would make it very obvious that something is inherently wrong with the leveling system as is (and that the devs would choose to implement a 'convenience' option instead of improving it directly).

    A main story skip/summary is probably something that's needed however. Some ARR quests, particularly the Lv. 50 series, could have some of the fetch-questy parts gutted out. Especially if you're like 5+ levels above the recommended level to do the quests in the first place (3+ at 50).
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    A main story skip/summary is probably something that's needed however. Some ARR quests, particularly the Lv. 50 series, could have some of the fetch-questy parts gutted out. Especially if you're like 5+ levels above the recommended level to do the quests in the first place (3+ at 50).
    The more I think about it, the more I wonder exactly how this could even be implemented, given the linearity of the storyline and how that very story explains pretty much everything that occurs in the game. Even those much maligned fetch quests all have a lore reason related to you the player - for instance someone earlier mentioned giving food to soldiers (which I assume was a particular quest leading up to the end of the original 2.0 story) as an example of such 'monotonous and boring fetch quests'. If the player actually reads the dialogue and thinks about it, this makes perfect sense.

    The Grand Companies were about to make an extremely risky assault on the Garleans, and victory was not entirely guaranteed. The average Grand Company soldiers who were going to be doing the bulk of the heavy fighting were demoralized and even considering abandoning their posts. So for the one the Garleans called the eikon slayer to actually sit down with them and break bread with them, showed that their own lives were equally important and that they were cared for and respected. It was a morale boosting exercise, and something I actually found rather poignant. That was just one example of a so-called 'fetch quest' actually playing a much deeper role in the story than most players realized.

    Accordingly, how would a hypothetical story skip handle everything that the 2.0/3.0 story involves? How would it handle the player being awoken to the Echo and actually learning about what it is (given the fact that the Echo is directly involved in gameplay - it's why we can take down Primals for one without being corrupted by them)? How would a player even be able to join a Grand Company, given that they wouldn't even look at you until you 'proved your worth' (namely, defeated Ifrit?). Then there is being able to use mounts (the license is Grand Company issued) etc etc. Even being able to use your Job effectively post level 50 would require story completion no matter how you look at it, given that after level 50 you no longer gain abilities by default on your base class but have to learn Job abilities only every two levels which are all quested, and those very post level 50 Job quests all move to Heavensward areas, which.. surprise surprise... require story completion to access.

    No, this is just opening up a very large and ugly can of worms that I don't think SE are that willing to deal with. But... I guess we will see either way. I hope Yoshi thinks about this and considers every possibility such a change would make to this game, both for good, and for ill.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 06-18-2016 at 12:17 PM.

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    AreciaRhi's Avatar
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    Yves Chevalier
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Thats what would make this even more scary since people out there already can't play correctly. I really don't want to be helping people who bought a leveled character and know absolutely nothing.
    I just met a level 60 WAR today.... He told me he just bought his account. And I mean level 60 everything! Do I report him? This is crazy.
    I suppose you're right;_; Needless to say we had to ./votekick.
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreciaRhi View Post
    I just met a level 60 WAR today.... He told me he just bought his account. And I mean level 60 everything! Do I report him? This is crazy.
    I suppose you're right;_; Needless to say we had to ./votekick.
    Its a shame people resort to things like this and I honestly feel sorry for them.
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    Luku Asura
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by WeekendSoja View Post
    I think people are reading way too much into this. I also think people forget that this games 2.0 lock out is not the only lockout it has...there's ilvl lockouts, and I just looked at the 3.3 patch notes...these people you are already condemning, before they can even access the quest to unlock hullbreaker hard they need to finish the MSQ "Heavensward"...

    A lot of the dungeons associated with level 60 requires you to beat the MSQ "Heavensward"...moving on, no where in that post do I see him directly saying he would alleviate quest requirements...he only said "allow players to experience aspects of 3.0" for all intents and purposes...I think he just means flying in Falcons nest lol
    Lol I'll leave this here...still don't see where they said they are removing all lockouts...everyone assuming 100%
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