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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    Except that RMT already does. You would have to be delusional to think that Steps of Faith has kept RMT from Heavensward content.

    I asked you to prove what you claim if claimed RMT is already infesting HW zones. You have not. Just saying they have is not proof by any stretch of the imagination. I have yet to see any RMT bot army in HW zones and I have actively searched for them because of liars who claimed they had infested HW, not a SINGLE person has provided proof that they have and it is because the story gating which includes multiple hard dungeons and trials before can enter Ishgard and subsequent zones. The only 'RMT' bot armies will find are still in ARR zones and cities which is not the same as an occasional singular legitimate player who resorted to botting after manually working their way past the gating.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 06-18-2016 at 04:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    I asked you to prove what you claim if claimed RMT is already infesting HW zones. You have not.
    You just edited your post asking that.

    And I don't have screen shots. But, hey, continue pretending that that stuff doesn't exist in Heavensward. I could care less.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    To be fair, you didn't have to use the level boost. The option for you to use it is available to jump into expansion content with your friend or to play the game from scratch.
    And while we are at it...
    I suppose, that we are supposed to ignore the fact there is a Cash shop (Cosmetic or no) in a Subscription based MMO too right? Like Seriously, lol no is EVER going to buy from that right guys? Right?


    We all know if the Cash shop was successful (which it was), this will be too. and its going to start a whole host of new problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    There are people whom have played this game since 2.0's launch who have no clue what the fuck is going on with the story. But these are the types of people who don't care if a game has a story behind it.
    Yep, I'm one of them. Though I normally do care about a story in games, this one was just so boring that as soon as I got to level 25 I decided to skip the rest. I did watch all the Heavenward cut scenes though as they were good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    For the time being, instead of offering an item that boosts character levels, remove the requirement of having completed the 2.0 MSQ up to Steps of Faith. The moment that they reach level 50, let them start progressing through Heavensward content. And if they want to go back and finish the rest of the ARR MSQ, then they can do so at their leisure. And once the new expansion releases, they should remove the requirement of having to complete Final Steps of Faith in order to do the new expansions content once they reach level 60 (at least at some point). I think that's what quite a few folks want in the first place.
    This. Instead of going for the jumping potion of whatever, just make the MSQ less mandatory or completely optional.

    People who want to do the story will follow it like usual (because you want to follow it, right....?) and those who don't want to or don't like it will just play the game without being forced to follow years of story.

    BUT WAIT, HOLD YOUR KEYBOARD.

    I get it however, I get it: this is a Final Fantasy game, it's "supposed" to have a story, it's "supposed" to be epic, yadda yadda yadda, but let's face it: some people play this game for the gameplay, some people play mmorpgs for the gameplay and not for the story. And don't start compare RPGs with MMORPGs please. Some of the players may say that "this game might not be for them", however you won't get anywhere by being niche anymore or if you follow a certain group of people: Wildstar tried to follow the old school WoW raiders and make the content super hard and look what happened: it's on life support, despite being quite an amazing game in my opinion.
    I'm not saying that FFXIV is doing bad but by simply making the story optional for those who don't care about the story, you'll get more players inside. More players, more dosh, more content. We all win.

    Or else just enjoy your jumping potion and have a good day "shrugs".

    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    No.

    That would be giving RMT 100% easy access to ruin and infest HW content just like they do with ARR content.
    Then ask SE to improve this situation: locking a zone behind a story just to help with the botting situation is a very poor excuse.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 06-18-2016 at 07:36 AM.

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    It feels waaaay too early in XIV's cycle to have a levelling potion, the reason WoW did theirs is because they have around 10 years worth of content, and a lot of that content is becoming outdated (especially the Outlands).
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    I agree with the story jump. The 0-50 MSQ slog is good, its part of levelling your first character, but gating HW/expac content behind the 2.x story? That seems like a terrible idea from a business and gameplay standpoint. I'm watching my wife go through that right now and its killing my desire to play through it all to get to HW. There are 100 quests and most of them are just teleport fetch quests with tons and tons of pointless text.
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    I didn't read all the posts in the thread, in fact I didn't read very many at all, but I did want to just put this comment in......in my experience, I have done everything I can, almost to the point of begging people on my Facebook friendlist to join the game so that I would have more RL friends to play with and because I want to take advantage of the Recruit a Friend campaign and get the Twintania mount. Over the course of months and months, posting here and there on Facebook about the game, offering up a free code to unlock the base game, and posting video after video and reviews of the game, and I can not for the life of me get anyone, out of some 400 people on my Facebook friendlist, to join the game. All but 2 of my RL friends have quit the game with no interest at all in coming back, regardless of what is added to the game. I think we started with about 8 of us and now we're down to me and 2 of my RL friends being the last of the initial group of us who were playing the game together.

    With all of this said, basically, what I'm getting at is this game isn't for everyone. There are so many other options available, and at least in my experience, it's hard to get people to join the game. I think the jump potion could definitely be a good thing and make the game more fun for people new to the game who simply want to play with their friends and who may otherwise be discouraged and quit when they find that they have to go through the entireity of all the MSQs available to catch up to their friend(s).

    I, for one, do not like the idea of the jump potion. I feel that everyone should experience the game and the story as it was intended to be experienced and they should have to work for everything that they earn in the game with no hand outs, aside from maybe a friend tossing them a little gil to get them started. (Even then I'm not a big fan of that either but I do understand that the newbie struggle is real.) So, to finish this up, I guess, even though I don't like the idea of it, if the jump potion will help retain more new players and help the game thrive, I can grit my teeth and bear it, so to speak.

    Oh and the addition of the Right Click Report Feature.....THANK THE TWELVE!!!!!!! FINALLY! It only took, what, 2 - 2 1/2 years of us asking for this feature to be implemented? Right click report is what I'll be looking forward to most in the upcoming patch. I think it's kind of sad to have to say that, but it's true. lol The amount of RMT on Mateus is absurd!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    Oh boy, I can't wait for the update where Ramuh drops out of the sky like "sup dawg, we gon fight up in dis tree to see who da most swoll in da woods".
    "Be excellent to each other."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    No.

    That would be giving RMT 100% easy access to ruin and infest HW content just like they do with ARR content. The story gating which incorporates multiple hard level 50 dungeons and trials has stopped RMT getting it's claws into HW content. You will not find a RMT bot army anywhere in HW zones, you will not find an RMT city /say or /shout chat spammer in Ishgard either. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar unless they can here and now provide proof that RMT has managed to get past that gating which to-date no-one has. Proof that is not just a singular/individual legitimate player who decided to bot after manually working through that gating.

    Exactly.. Thats one of the reasons i'm glad SE did what they did because it bars RMT from going farther, and I too have never seen anything RMT release in HW areas. If there are, then I haven't looked hard enough and humbly apologize
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadub2k View Post
    Exactly.. Thats one of the reasons i'm glad SE did what they did because it bars RMT from going farther, and I too have never seen anything RMT release in HW areas. If there are, then I haven't looked hard enough and humbly apologize
    I would be cautious with that. Many of FFXI's design decisions were done with the intention of hindering RMTers but it ended up harming the general community/game much more.
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