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    rarecandi's Avatar
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    Ren Ru'hmet
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 80

    [GM] Please take notice. Make statement on housing.

    I'd like to take some time out from crafting and grinding the new relic to settle the great debate lately of whether buying/selling housing/FCs is against the Terms of Service. I have heard mixed things about it and would like an official statement from a GM. Screenshots and tells are easily manipulated as we can see in this thread: Here

    I received this message from Support in game. I believe it's proof enough, but others will need a bit more convincing. If a GM would please, make a statement it would be greatly appreciated. With the ongoing war of housing demolition, people are buying houses cheap and then selling them for insane amounts. This is becoming a HUGE problem on every server. Please, there needs to be a clear statement for all to see.
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    Crysten Kimura
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    More wards and private apartment housing in future patches is already a pretty big statement if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    More wards and private apartment housing in future patches is already a pretty big statement if you ask me.
    But that doesn't exactly solve the whole "Can I sell my house for gil" debate for some. People literally want a GM to say, "No you cannot sell your house for gil in-game".. Which is why I have posted on the forums in hopes that maybe some clarity will help those who are confused even though there are screenshots of proof floating around. Some were faked, some were not.
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    T'erra Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    More wards and private apartment housing in future patches is already a pretty big statement if you ask me.
    Please look forward to it?
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Just don't buy from anyone reselling. Wait until the new wards go in in 3.3 or the mansion or Ishgard wards later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Just don't buy from anyone reselling. Wait until the new wards go in in 3.3 or the mansion or Ishgard wards later.
    That's not what is being discussed here. Like me, there are other who want to know with 100% certainty that buying and selling land and FCs is against the TOS.
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by rarecandi View Post
    That's not what is being discussed here. Like me, there are other who want to know with 100% certainty that buying and selling land and FCs is against the TOS.
    Is it? Last time I looked I could not see anything in the ToS that would forbid it. Exactly which rule would it break?
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    Stouter Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Is it? Last time I looked I could not see anything in the ToS that would forbid it. Exactly which rule would it break?
    Not seeing it in the official ToS, unless you want to call it disrupting others' gameplay. If you want to go down that road, any MB listing, FATE group, hunt party, etc could fall into the category.
    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en
    The current License Limitations are as follows:
    2.1 Cheating and Botting.
    2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling.
    2.3 Commercial Use.
    2.4 Private Servers.
    2.5 Data Mining.
    2.6 Hacking and Circumvention.
    2.7 Modifying or Creating Derivative Software.
    2.8 Commercial Spamming/Spimming.

    The current Prohibited Activities are as follows:
    3.1 Sharing Account Information.
    3.2 Disruption.
    3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language.
    3.4 Impersonation.
    3.5 Naming Right.
    3.6 Any Illegal Activities.
    3.7 False Account Information.
    3.8 Chargebacks.
    3.9 Non-Commercial Spamming/Spimming
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    If it were against the ToS, people would be warned/banned for posting auctions in the party finder. This is merely an fight club-esque, "we don't talk about it". Do I think the devs like it? Nope. But they won't actually do anything unless you attempt to rip someone off. It's no different then people selling carries for their Anima weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Is it? Last time I looked I could not see anything in the ToS that would forbid it. Exactly which rule would it break?
    I was told it's considered inappropriate behavior, and could possibly be under scamming. The point is to get a GM to clarify what exactly, to a T, is against TOS dealing with all aspects of housing.
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