Last edited by Fieros; 11-02-2011 at 04:38 AM. Reason: ahh i see, offline leveling lol
Show your support - "Leve grinding without the run" http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/29139



They replenish 4 every 12 hours and I will hardly argue your point here since I already responded to it in someone else's post.
You think 10k xp per roughly 5 to 10 minutes on a leve is miniscule? Bogus argument. Next.
I thought I was replying to the "let's add offline leveling derp thread"



All you've been doing is saying its fine to get that much XP as long as you have to take 1 minute to port+return every 4/2/1 leves.


There are some conditions where when Guardian's Aspect and level conditions are optimal, that leves can give 10k exp in less than 10 minutes. And there are times when leves give 2-3k in the same time frame.
At this point, I don't even really understand what your argument is anymore. It seems you're against leves all together. My point in the 4 leves every 12 hours is that that's all there is. Once they're done, they're done till the next reset. Which is why the ride back between is arbitrary. If it takes someone 40 minutes or 120 minutes to complete their four leves, they still end up with the same amount of experience points.
Even if they store up a week's worth of allowances, they're going to get the same amount of exp as someone who does their four leves every 12 hours whether they ride back to town or not. So what's the point in riding back to town? There's no challenge in it, all it does is stall the player from playing.
And all anyone can say in response is "well what's the point in doing anything at all, might as well put in a win button." which is an exaggeration against the point. There's a difference between shortcuts and elements that serve no purpose.
if they do change it so you can get leve's on the spot, they will probally cut the amount of xp you get on leve's
What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.



The big problem now is that if a dev were to stumble in here and see Wynn protesting so much thats all he would take away from this thread, so it seems Wynn has pretty much screwed up any chance of this thread being taken seriously.
Thanks for that.



I can easily show you this as can anyone who is 35+. The fact that you are unaware of it is pretty telling though.
Oh please. What do you think? That the devs have no brains of their own?


Your point has no relevance to the topic.The point is this: 12 hours per 4 leves and then you have to wait to get a huge boost in xp again. Sure you can accumulate them now, but you still have to go back and get more to do so. Time sink. A casual player, those leves are intended for, aren't going to abuse this system. They will play for an hour, maybe two and then leave for a few days or whatever. The people who would abuse this system can't because they only have so much anima before they have to hoof it back the long way. Placing leves directly at the camp makes it way too easy to plow through levels very quickly.
Anima is the shortcut.
It costs the same amount of anima to get the same amount of exp whether you do it once s day or once a week.
If you take the travel time out of the equation, there's still a cap on attainable exp. And that cap has nothing to do with how long it takes to get back to the Adveturer's Guild, whether it I'd by foot, chocobo or teleportation. The trip is pointless and leves are finite. It's impossible to "abuse" leves as there only are so many allowances.
Issuance on site will only serve to aide a player with less time to commit. While the person who would have finished them anyway will regardless of travel.
Last edited by Sephrick; 11-02-2011 at 05:43 AM.


Been thinking of what you guys said. I have few adjustments I would add to Aethrights to make them work better.
Can only get 10 per Aethright quests at THAT Aethright every 10 hours. This is only limit on not going back to citys and getting quests there. You can still get leve quests at citys but there isnt a limit for THAT Aethright or anyone.
I also thought sitting at one camp would be a bad idea since theres 4-2 Aeth camps that support same levels.
With a player with 99 leve quests will have a better chance in reaching 0 this way. More power for casual players to clear more leve quests and DoL.
Edit: Would also change the leve quest recharge time to 7hours. Time sink this way would be better then having the player forced into doing something for a time sink.
Last edited by Venat; 11-02-2011 at 05:39 AM.
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