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  1. #1
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100

    Need to handle weapon tiers better at end game...

    So call me crazy, but I've noticed with this patch that despite the fact we can now get 220 armor much more easily due to a lack of lock out, people are still stuck with 210 ESO weapons unless they mastered Sephirot EX, who has now been rendered redundant by the coming of Nidhogg EX and probably takes just as much effort to defeat as Nidhogg EX.

    Is there some reason that weapon level for everyday players is stuck at 210 for multiple patches? Yes, we can get the 230 weapon from gears, but the gears are still on lock out as well, so if someone is trying to gear multiple roles for end game it's basically impossible to do so before next patch hits since it would take at minimum 20 weeks to get both, and they are necessary for damage dealers to help ease the difficulty of the end game fights.
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Don't forget the relic, that can be gotten without ever having to raid, although raiding can make it faster. So you can get at least two good weapons without having to bash your head against ex trials. Although I do wish the new dungeons dropped weapons. That'd be nice.
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    Last edited by Drkdays; 06-12-2016 at 10:11 PM.

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    Robin Icebrand
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    Midgardsormr
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    I have noticed that, as well. For any weapon i210 and up it's either Alex Savage, Eso upgrade, Anima (with i210 being a massive grind), Sephirot or Nidhogg EX, or 7 weeks of Midas plus 1000 Lore. No crafted, no dungeon drops... Weren't there at least i110 crafted weapons around this time in 2.X, or am I misremembering?

    I'm not complaining about difficulty of obtaining them (i210+ specifically), mind you, just the lack of...how do I put this...less grindy methods, I guess.
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    This, I am doing the relic, the third step is taking ages, I do not have a static and not the time to raid. On one of my classes, I have full 230 (aside from weapons), but my weapon is still Ilevel 210. While I have no issues with this, I do get alot of remarks from players about the ilevel of my weapon.
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    only real issue here is that even though we are in the catch up patch, 230 weapon is still lock behind not just lore but also the 7 midan gears. doing seph is probably no real option anymore for the ppl especially with echo only kicking in after a wipe
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    I still don't understand how come there is i220 eikon armor but no weapons... #sad-blacksmith-is-sad

    When the new Ex primal is added one would expect the older primal would give you the weapon for one token or something, coz it is already older content and the value greatly decreased.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    some weeks of lore and 8 midas 4 normal...that is basically a trial HM in difficulty and 230 weapon

    if u talk about gearing "alts" jobs , yeah , is primal ex or relic .... no crafted nor dropped in dungeons

    why dungeons dont get weapons ? 220 weapons on last boss would be cool
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I think a Ilevel 215 weapon from the two new dungeons would have been a great way to help people gear up their weapons. This would also help players with alts who do not want to do relics for all their alt classes or wait 7 weeks x (classes).
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I suppose the SE gods have their reasons...I just can't fathom them. Maybe some mini patch they have cooking will help. Like an upgrade to the non relic 210s or something.
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  10. #10
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Yeah, I mean I'm not complaining about iLvL 230, just that I'd at least expect that our other jobs could get a 220 weapon relatively quickly at this point rather than being forced through some extremely time intensive means that doesn't even work out. Even if the gear level is giving the necessary damage boost, mentally people want to see that 220 weapon if the content gearing expectation at end game is at least 220 (which it is now).
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