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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    Here is a different approach using the same number of basic touches, ingenuity II and innovation. This would require the same super high control (1017) but is going to require much less craftsmanship. And less CP. The skill lineup is much different though so you would need a macro lineup to swap cross class skills (if you don't use one already).



    Note this hinges on the fact that ingenuity II + brand apparently nets more progress than muscle memory. I haven't tested this out yes but I believe its accurate. I'm still poking at the rotation as it has some interesting potential.
    Although this does require less craftsmanship. All brands have a 90% success rate which may make this a little unreliable at times. Mathematically speaking there is a 72.9% chance of all 3 brands will succeed. If someone is slightly off the craftsmanship requirements then this is an alternative if you don't want to rely on hasty touch though it does mean you lose the item if a brand doesn't work instead of maybe getting nq instead.
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    Last edited by tayler1480; 06-13-2016 at 06:51 PM.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daragon View Post
    slightly modified version:
    Base stats are 1007 craft, 970 control and 430 CP with HQ seafood stew.
    Total stats should work out at 1007 craft / 1001 control / 480 CP.

    Image isn't working so link here should work: http://imgur.com/s1JVLad
    The simulator isn't 100% accurate & there's something wrong with Ingenuity. Ignore everything apart from progress skills & we get the following:


    Progress needed is 1436, MM gives 473 leaving 963 progress left. We have 4 careful synthesis 2s being affected by ingenuity so we need each careful synthesis 2 to increase progress by 241 (963/4 = 240.75)

    My craftsmanship is 1011 however even after using a hq emerald soup (increased craftsmanship to 1086), I still couldn't get careful synthesis 2 to increase progress by 241+ & was at 239 until I used the +5 craftsmanship fc buff (craftsmanship now 1091). Unfortunately the original macro as shown below is the only reliable macro so far

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  3. #23
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    I'd like to thank everyone who's been trying to improve this macro & other macros in other posts. It's nice to see people helping each other out ^^
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    I'm slightly confused by that one though, doesn't the result say Progress 1433/1436?
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    Oh poop you're right I forgot about the stupid brand 90% issue. That is the issue which always broke brands for me. So that will NOT work.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Kakera_ View Post
    I'm slightly confused by that one though, doesn't the result say Progress 1433/1436?
    The simulator isn't 100% accurate & you actually need 1004 craftsmanship to reach 1436/1436.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by tayler1480 View Post
    The simulator isn't 100% accurate & you actually need 1004 craftsmanship to reach 1436/1436.
    Ahh, I see. In that case, I suppose Espritduo's Ariyala build is the way to go; mine was based on that rotation that doesn't work in the end.

    Edit: I still optimized it anyway to reduce expensive melds on pieces that weren't shared (tools). http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UH2J
    If there's a way to further optimize it to remove IVs from class-specific pieces, feel free to tinker with it.

    Edit 2: I realized there was too much CP for what the macro required so with this we can reduce IVs: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UH2N
    Granted, in a way we "lose out" on 6 CP for other kinds of crafts so this is more just to optimize this build. There's not even any need to meld IVs in the tools with this. Another variant if one didn't want to meld Control Vs in their tools would be to meld +4+4+4+4 in each instead of +7+3+3+3.
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    Last edited by _Kakera_; 06-14-2016 at 12:40 AM.

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    @Katalyna If you have exactly 1087 crafts you don't need that extra careful synth at the end. 10 extra durability to play with.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronHughes View Post
    @Katalyna If you have exactly 1087 crafts you don't need that extra careful synth at the end. 10 extra durability to play with.
    Interesting... thats a poopton of craftsmanship. None the less, interesting.
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    Heres another modified version of it with elements, which will drastically reduce the needed stats, bump the Cp-requirement up by 1 to 425. Notice 2 Things:

    1. Ingenuity I is used and since the simulator cant make the difference, the craftmanship 921 is too low. My Guess would be around 940-960.
    2. 1 Hasty Touch is in there, which can be replaced with startingquality(+1000?). Due to CP restraints we cannot replace it with an BT.



    prob can be used with HQ-items are provided to bump up the startingquality, which is common.
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