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    Well it is a relatively interesting concept, I'll give you that. It does bring up the point that the next healing job can't really be a "shields or hots" deal like AST is and will likely require a separate healing system.

    The biggest problem with this concept isn't skill-based, but lag-based. Ever try to play NIN while lagging? Try casting mudras while your severely lagging, and then ask yourself "should healing abilities really be like that?" because at least with standard healing, you can just hit one button and at least the tank might still be alive. With a mudra-style healing setup, you might not even have the luxury of the thought that the cast went off.

    The other complaint I have is more a personal taste in that I think the "rune" concept gets overplayed, but that's just me.

    I'd like to see this concept more elaborated, but bear in mind that lag factor for that mudra-based healing aspect.
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    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    but lag-based
    But any class sucks to play while lagging lol. And can causes issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    But any class sucks to play while lagging lol. And can causes issues
    This would be lag x1000 though. Having to perform a combination in order to cast a simple cure spell would make spellcasting slower, even if you eliminated spell timers. Can you imagine needing to cure bomb a paladin after a tank buster? "Sorry tank, Cure III is a 3-button combo!"

    I'm exaggerating, of course, but even a single one-button Mudra shuriken takes longer to fire off than a cure spell you have at your beck and call. So, I have a suggestion for improving your idea. Instead of having forced combinations, make it more open. Firstly, allow your 'runic' spells to be cast singularly as normal. Then, introduce a 'combine' skill which allows you to queue up several runes in a row, which would activate a combination skill.

    That way it won't get in the way of normal play, but it can still provide advantages all of its own.
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    Last edited by Lemuria; 06-14-2016 at 01:46 AM.

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    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    This
    Imo that's just someone being lazy. That's like saying you're not gonna use Huton because it's a 3 button combo. You're just being lazy. And should go play a diff class then
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    Imo that's just someone being lazy. That's like saying you're not gonna use Huton because it's a 3 button combo. You're just being lazy. And should go play a diff class then
    So you have no rebuttals besides the "lazy" card. They gave a good counter argument on why your idea may not work and even gave suggestions on how to improve your ideas and the only thing you can come back with is "lazy"? Methinks it's pot calling kettle black when someone doesn't agree with them.
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    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    So you have no rebuttals besides the "lazy" card. They gave a good counter argument on why your idea may not work and even gave suggestions on how to improve your ideas and the only thing you can come back with is "lazy"? Methinks it's pot calling kettle black when someone doesn't agree with them.
    Huh? What're you talking about, it wasn't supposed to be a rebuttal. It was a general statement, if someone doesn't want to use a combination because it's too long for them, then you're just being lazy in that manner of speaking. Why is that a big deal?
    I'm not trying to throw back counter arguments and argue with anyone - maybe you are?

    Like I mentioned, all I said was that's lazy, which it is. That's why not every class is made for everyone, you pick what YOU want to play. Not that big of a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    But any class sucks to play while lagging lol. And can causes issues
    That is true, but it's an especially severe case for ninjas due to the shortened recast time on mudras.
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