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    Planter boxes for indoor gardening

    I know this last patch introduced gardening pots for use indoors. But by being one plot only, they don't allow crossbreeding. But the gardening system is heavily dependent on crossbreeding. That's really what the whole system revolves around. It's where nearly all the worthwhile gardening items come from.

    If the goal were to help the upcoming apartments (or current private chambers) to serve as a substitute for a house by allowing gardening indoors, then this lack of crossbreeding kind of kills that plan. You can grow a few things in those pots, but you can't actually take part in the game's gardening system without getting a house with an outdoor garden.

    My suggestion is to please add indoor rectangular planter boxes comprised of two gardening plots. That would be small enough to look suitable for an indoor space, and would be smaller than any of the outdoor gardens, but two plants together could intercross, thus opening up access to hybrids. That way a player with just an apartment could fully take part in gardening. It would be slower than doing so outdoors where gardens have 4, 6, or 8 plots (and more if you have multiple gardens). But you wouldn't be locked out of any of gardening's features, as will happen if only pots are available.

    The more effectively apartments can fulfill the role of a house, the better they'll be at reducing the strain on the wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    I know this last patch introduced gardening pots for use indoors. But by being one plot only, they don't allow crossbreeding. But the gardening system...

    ...The more effectively apartments can fulfill the role of a house, the better they'll be at reducing the strain on the wards.
    The indoor planters are meant more to work like the moghouse planters in FFXI, where they give you flowers to make your house look pretty and ore and crystals
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    Actually, with the new stuff, the most useful crops don't even require crossbreeding.

    Krakka, Althyk, Voidrake, all of the chocobo coloring seeds, and the shard seeds don't require crossing to be useful or to be acquired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edrickthorn View Post
    The indoor planters are meant more to work like the moghouse planters in FFXI, where they give you flowers to make your house look pretty and ore and crystals
    Yes, but while introducing a new feature is nice, it doesn't replace the absence of a quite different feature. As it stands, the pots are a nice addition, but they don't solve the problem of not having access to gardening in an apartment or chamber. Even people who get some housing features by getting an apartment, will still need a house if they want access to other significant housing features.

    With the apartments being instanced and the housing wards constant, the apartments are going to be a lot easier on SE's servers, so presumably easier for them to expand. But that only benefits them if players accept that having an apartment constitutes having housing. If it doesn't, then demand for the actual house plots will remain unchanged. So it's important to ensure that all the features you get by having a house, you can also get (just in a smaller size) by having an apartment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Yes, but while introducing a new feature is nice, it doesn't replace the absence r...

    ...So it's important to ensure that all the features you get by having a house, you can also get (just in a smaller size) by having an apartment.

    The apartments will probably have a balcony and that will be the "outside" area where you can put "outdoor" furniture and other stuff like the garden patches, or maybe they will be garden pots...and this will only happen if SE decides to make apartments have the same stuff that housing has(which I doubt they will do). They will want to keep some options available to people that have houses that apartment dwellers will not have like for example the FC Workshop. I bet they will not allow FC apartments and if they do, that means that the apartments will probably be available in small, medium and "penthouse".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edrickthorn View Post
    The apartments will probably have a balcony and that will be the "outside" area where you can put "outdoor" furniture and other stuff like the garden patches
    Oh, that would be nice.


    Quote Originally Posted by Edrickthorn View Post
    They will want to keep some options available to people that have houses that apartment dwellers will not have like for example the FC Workshop.
    Well, that's already not available in people's personal houses, only in FC houses. I'm thinking more in terms of making the apartments equivalent to the personal houses. Players using the apartments for their personal housing would then free up space in the wards for FC houses (which is what the wards were originally designed for).
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    Crossbreeding is a perk of house gardens and should probably stay that way to maintain the value of those items, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Players using the apartments for their personal housing would then free up space in the wards for FC houses (which is what the wards were originally designed for).
    The wards were designed for FC houses and personal houses. The FC houses just came first ingame.
    During the live letters about housing during 1.x and ARR beta they never mentioned to keep FC houses and private houses in separated zones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The wards were designed for FC houses and personal houses. The FC houses just came first ingame.
    During the live letters about housing during 1.x and ARR beta they never mentioned to keep FC houses and private houses in separated zones
    I disagree, wards weren't designed for personal houses, the housing shortage should be enough proof of this.
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    I will laugh like a madman if you can add an apartment to the pile of houses you may already own/access. Some people have personal house, partners house, FC house, and Private Chambers already.
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