Weeping city of mhach come toxic?

[OwlBlackX]

I was never see players as toxic before. They were always nice in finder duty.

But, then I joined Weeping city of mhach. I see many people started rude and rage....

[Azper]

Seems about the usual for week 1 of a new patch to me...

[PantslessPrince]

I didn't have that problem.
It just launched so most people are understanding that you may not know all the mechanics so most people I partied with were exchanging tips/things they noticed.
The only problem I have is with Ozmar. Screw that thing.

[odie]

VA was toxic after the first couple clears after the patch dropped. I didn't expect Mhach to be any different. I might just turn off Alliance chat forever.

[silentwindfr]

well i guess is mostly the frustration, i don't think is a nice thing to act like this, but i can understand how it can be frustrating to see people make the group wipe because they ignore the strategy and redo countless time the same error.
the raid is a bit more challenging and that soo good. the trouble it's show that the level of skill of people are kinda low.

don't get me wrong, i did see people that was there for the first time learn mechanic in 1-2 wipe. avoiding the redo the same error twice, but you have a lot of people that simply ignore the battle mechanic, thinking that them dps are more important than staying alive or avoid to increase the heavy load of work of the healer or tank.

yes i point the dps, but some healer are too bad... they rely on the other healer and often don't want to really work hard or prefer dps while letting one person die.
and i will not forget the people that ignore common sense to not stand in front of the boss and take damage for nothing...

why this situation? mostly because until now, the content outside raid 8 people was almost facerolling. people need to face harder and harder and harder content, slowly progressing from a new player to a good player. but here, a lot of person are still new player... and it create this situation.

[Greydor]

I think what you're experiencing is a tremendous level of frustration from players that know the mechanics, but can't seem to get a group of enough people that can clear it.

For example, you spend, say, 50-60 minutes getting to Ozma and then Wipe; raid clears. Do that again just to get to Ozma for the wipe; raid clears again.

Then do that again.

Oh, and keep in mind you have limited game time because you have a full work week, so you've spent a tremendous amount of time (~4 hours wiping to up to/and to Ozma).

Salt shaker spills.

[Kaurie]

I've only been in once, but everyone was really friendly in my party / alliances. One of the best groups of DF I've been paired with actually.

[Lexia]

On patch day I tried the weeping city and 3-4 people quit and the rest of the alliance vote abandoned the duty about half way through.

[odie]

it's not even about people not having skill....

It's new content...its going to wipe. Just because someone ran it and cleared it a couple times on Day 1 doesn't mean that everyone else is caught up too. You're going to have first timers for WEEKS getting into Mhach, either because they were too busy with other content before (crafting/gathering/housing/etc) or busy work weeks or school, or people like me that tend to put it off because I know the level of bullshit that goes on in the first few hours of the patch launch. You can't start assuming that because its been out a couple days that everyone knows what the mechanics or strategy is.

Less about skill, and more about people are still figuring it out for the first time.

[eschaton]

Ah yes, letting other people enjoy the quest of finding out how new content and mechanics are used in PUGs, it does slow you down right? Oooh the horror new content brings; you have searched websites, have read first-week guides, have watched first-week videos and now you might still wipe because many others are actually still fresh and might want to find out for themselves, or just with their friends. Having this experience just few and far between patches doesn't really help either, it's better you enrage yourself end explode in Alliance chat, right.