anyone thinks the seals gained from turning in HW dungeon drops be nerfed?

[Neihel]

right now it gives way too much and makes the "adventurer in need" reward nearly obsolete when you can roll in an HW dungeon as any class and make more seals than you ever could as an "adventurer in need"

there will always be people that will roll need on drops they don't need just for the seals taking it away from players that really need it for either glamour or even stats

this is going to be pretty problematic if the devs ever do increase inventory space without fixing this because that would enable company seal hoarders to hoard even more

[Vivi_Bushido]

right now it gives way too much and makes the "adventurer in need" reward nearly obsolete when you can roll in an HW dungeon as any class and make more seals than you ever could as an "adventurer in need"

there will always be people that will roll need on drops they don't need just for the seals taking it away from players that really need it for either glamour or even stats

this is going to be pretty problematic if the devs ever do increase inventory space without fixing this because that would enable company seal hoarders to hoard even more

I brought this up with my static not to long ago and was told that there wasn't anything wrong with people rolling need on gear for seals because they still need it. Just in a different way from you.

I was told, if you need gear, farm Midas. If you want glamour, queue the dungeon as that class. Otherwise, all is fair game.

You can't justify that needing gear for glamour is more entitled than someone needing it for seals.

[Zojha]

You can't justify that needing gear for glamour is more entitled than someone needing it for seals.

In the same vein, then, you can't justify that needing gear for your main class is more entitled than someone needing it for an alt-class.

As such, the role/class restrictions on loot should really be abolished.

[Vivi_Bushido]

In the same vein, then, you can't justify that needing gear for your main class is more entitled than someone needing it for an alt-class.

As such, the role/class restrictions on loot should really be abolished.

Your right. You can't justify that either because both players need it.

But you can justify that if they wanted that piece of gear, they should've queued as that job to roll against you.

[UnstablePersonality]

100% no, mainly with the anima having items from it.

[Vespar]

I brought this up with my static not to long ago and was told that there wasn't anything wrong with people rolling need on gear for seals because they still need it. Just in a different way from you.

I was told, if you need gear, farm Midas. If you want glamour, queue the dungeon as that class. Otherwise, all is fair game.

You can't justify that needing gear for glamour is more entitled than someone needing it for seals.

Very good way to put it!
If a player WANTS something from a dungeon, then they should go on the job that can use it and NEED it for them self.
I never expect others to pass equipment for me. My party is just as entitled to the gear as I am regardless of how the gear will be used (ie. seals, glamor, vendor-fodder, etc)

[Bixillarla]

Nothing wrong with rolling need on gear you will turn in for seals. Your need for the gear to wear is not greater than the need of the other player has to turn in for seals to purchase items they need for their character.

Everyone has the same chance to win the need roll.

[CheshirePuss]

Nothing wrong with rolling need on gear you will turn in for seals. Your need for the gear to wear is not greater than the need of the other player has to turn in for seals to purchase items they need for their character.

Everyone has the same chance to win the need roll.

If the intent of either party is to turn in the gear, then sure. But if someone needs for seals over the person that actually needs the gear to have a higher ilvl and better stats, it really does feel like a dick move.

"Oh finally, I'll now have the ilvl to nevermind!"

Seals will always be something a player may be in need of. But there are plenty of methods to obtain them, some even quicker than dungeoning.

[Vivi_Bushido]

If the intent of either party is to turn in the gear, then sure. But if someone needs for seals over the person that actually needs the gear to have a higher ilvl and better stats, it really does feel like a dick move.

"Oh finally, I'll now have the ilvl to nevermind!"

Seals will always be something a player may be in need of. But there are plenty of methods to obtain them, some even quicker than dungeoning.

And you can also counter argue that by saying there's other ways to boost your item level. This can be easily done by crafted gear on the market board.

[CheshirePuss]

And you can also counter argue that by saying there's other ways to boost your item level. This can be easily done by crafted gear on the market board.

Not really. The fact that the market can be very expensive to a player, even a non-crafter, especially in HW's phase of leveling, can be discouraging. Imagine, trying to compare forking over a ton of money for just a few pieces, and risking a potentially long queue (depending on class) for a 25-30 min or so dungeon run, to be out voted by a person that can spend about 5-10 min in a fate, per fate, and probably even spend less time to get the seals that add up to the gear piece that was taken. Fates alone are enough to get a person to cap if they're smart about where they grind. I recall hitting my seals cap on many occasions when grinding for a few of my Realm Reborn relics.