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    Pheryx's Avatar
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    Pheryx Ramal
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithe View Post
    If you mean losing all the players that refuse to try and get better, then I'm ok with this. Besides, lots of groups can just sell runs then. I don't mean beat alexander savage better btw.
    Losing all the players that refuse to get better could actually harm the game though from a business perspective. Difficulty can lead to a lot of people who are casual players to unsubbing from the game completely damaging SEs profits to help make more/ better content.
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    Lithe Rhaelyn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pheryx View Post
    Losing all the players that refuse to get better could actually harm the game though from a business perspective. Difficulty can lead to a lot of people who are casual players to unsubbing from the game completely damaging SEs profits to help make more/ better content.
    Just because a player is casual doesn't mean they are bad. They might need to wait a bit longer for the baddies to unsub, but they can beat it. I don't think that many casual players will unsub after a week or 2 lol.
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    Vinny Falcone
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    These people aren't reflecting their frustration on these forums though. Except a few though. And I can literally count on my hand how many. Look at the petition thread.

    Please nerf Likes vs No Nerf Likes


    Usually when something is reported on by a vast amount of players the Devs DO act. A6S for example.
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    ToffeeCoffee's Avatar
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    Chai Latte
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Everything gets nerfed eventually. Like it or not.
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowT View Post
    Everything is at the perfect difficulty, and i mean Everything.
    Specially the Weeping city of Mhach, people who are complaining it is hard should git gud, plain and simple.

    I am not saying i am good, hell i might call myself a noob, but i actually love the difficulty the Nidhogg Ex & The weeping city has , going back to the weeping city, this actually motivates me to do my job better, if i fail at a mechanic it might cause the whole alliance to wipe which keeps me focusing at all time and not just a mean to practice my multitasking when doing a 24 man raid, an i totally love it.

    so again, Don't nerf anything from this patch, please.
    So if im complaining its too hard, because most of the time 23 other random people are terrible and cant compare with my level of perfomance, i should get good? Its not my raid group, so im not emotionally bound to these people, so i dont know why it would be fun too waste my time with a bunch of toxic strangers who are terrible at a game..
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I think Ozma's mechanics are fine, the biggest problem with the fight at least from what I can see is that there is literally little "room" for error, we've had massive arenas for our 24p raids so far and it was usually easy to avoid/scatter when people failed mechanics. Ozma however doesnt have a big enough arena to avoid poorly placed mechanics so stuff like meteors, laser, orbs, heck even the bleed thing ends up causing wipes cause its hard to get away from those not so quick players.
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    Micro Mage
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    Jenova
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    Botanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    Really this! It's true in Nidhogg too.
    Work together in an mmo... this is duty finder where peeps aren't in vc together.. that's not possible. Casual gamers to hardcore raiders.. skill vary way too much for this content to be this hard. Simple as that. No more needs to be said. Nerf this EX level nonsense SE, thanks!
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    Rune Venil
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Micromage View Post
    Work together in an mmo... this is duty finder where peeps aren't in vc together.. that's not possible. Casual gamers to hardcore raiders.. skill vary way too much for this content to be this hard. Simple as that. No more needs to be said. Nerf this EX level nonsense SE, thanks!
    I am totally blind in one eye, and three times legally blind in the other. If I can manage to get a duty finder clear you can too. o_<
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    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    Judah Brandt
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Sadly, regardless of how many of us feel and appreciate the effort they put into making a fun Raid, the "They better nerf Wiping City!" crybabies are going to win in the end. No one wants to communicate in an MMO, and they want all the rewards handed to them for the least amount of effort possible.

    People will retort that they're awesome and "23 other players were so bad" that it requires some kind of hand-holding since they don't want to try. For some reason, people can't handle dying in a dungeon. They cry for nerfs instead. I say leave it. If you want to upgrade your Lore gear, then just do Heavensward Hunts. It's actually infinite and faster and they can just roll over them. So yeah, if you can't handle something moderately, and I mean moderately because none of the mechanics in Mhachi are new since we've seen all of them for at least a year, then by all means avoid the content. Much like Savage, we know certain things aren't for everybody.
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    Last edited by Judah_Brandt; 06-10-2016 at 06:14 AM.

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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    To be honest i could care less. Nerf it if it'll make the babies happy i gave up trying to teach ages ago.
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