Astrope, the 2 seater pegasus takes over 5 years to obtain if you do it casually

[alimdia]

From Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._over_5_years/

Requirement: complete 2,000 duties via Duty Roulette: Mentor.

So basically you can't get it while casually helping people with roulette, you have to grind it if you want to get it in a reasonable time (less than a year), you need to do this roulette at least 6 times per day to get it in under a year.

I understand the idea of keeping a long term achievement for those who use mentor roulette, but I'm afraid this reward being a 2 seater mount will increase the number of bad mentors who ragequit as soon as they get something they don't want, people who will spam mentor roulette just trying to get easy clears like dungeons or hests. I don't think that was a good idea.

It also doesn't help that those mentors aren't held accountable despite the mentor status coming with a warning, so I hope that astronomical number doesn't finish killing the mentor status in instances, status that already carries a terrible reputation.

Core point to note: This will increase the number of bad mentors in DF who are only there for the reward.

Also worth to read the replies.

[Magic-Mal]

^ My dreams....

[Zomkei]

I was actually thinking of starting a similar thread. Hopefully SE will reconsider the number, as 2,000 is an insane "goal"...

[Belhi]

I think this is a catch 22. If its too easy people who really shouldn't be doing the Mentor roulette (people with no interest in actually Mentoring) will be queuing up, ruining the purpose of the Mentor roulette in the first place. On the flipside, they want to allow people who take the time and effort to actually Mentor to get some reward for their efforts.

Not a easy thing to do. Strickly speaking if its tied to the Mentor roulette it probably shouldn't be something that is really for being a 'goal'.

That said, 2000 does seem extremely excessive.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

Well, i guess in 5 years you guys will see me with a sick @$$ pegasus mount. Glamour is the real endgame!

[AlphaFox]

I was interested in Mentor but I have yet to have any real luck in completing them. All the ones I got were EX Primals and it was just wipe after wipe, not worth the pain to end up failing. I'll gladly answer questions but not something I will actively pursue.

[MeiUshu]

I was interested in Mentor but I have yet to have any real luck in completing them. All the ones I got were EX Primals and it was just wipe after wipe, not worth the pain to end up failing. I'll gladly answer questions but not something I will actively pursue.

If you run 10 roulettes per day is little under a year that you will require to get a mount. Considering that it is a mount (two seats) we are talking seems to me reasonable. Is alot for those that want the mount right away.

Also there is a trick in that sentence *complete* 2000 roulettes. If there are rage quiters, all they will do is make it worse on them to get the mount, since they left in the mid and didnt complete it (which seems right so).

Those that are there for the mount probably shouldnt be mentoring. Mentoring is the main goal not the mount. True mentors want to help the community to better, anything aside is a bonus but not their main goal or shouldnt be...If you really are there for the mount well sorry to me you shouldnt wear a crown in the first place.

[Zomkei]

I think this is a catch 22. If its too easy people who really shouldn't be doing the Mentor roulette (people with no interest in actually Mentoring) will be queuing up, ruining the purpose of the Mentor roulette in the first place. On the flipside, they want to allow people who take the time and effort to actually Mentor to get some reward for their efforts.

Not a easy thing to do. Strickly speaking if its tied to the Mentor roulette it probably shouldn't be something that is really for being a 'goal'.

That said, 2000 does seem extremely excessive.

Unfortunately, people who have no interest in actually mentoring will queue up, however it will be worse. They will grind, and rage quit if a player takes too long, or is trying to learn mechanics, in order to grind faster. They will try their best to cheat the system in order to grind 10+ mentor roulettes a day so they can get that mount. Theres already people doing it, someone in another thread mentioned people trying to lower the new people they run into by selecting unpopular languages.

In my opinion, even though 2,000 is absurd, the mount shouldn't even be in the mentor achievements. Yoshi had said he didn't want to do that due to attracting players who don't want to mentor in order to obtain such items. 5 + years to get that mount is insane, no matter the reasoning behind it. If they're bothered by people quickly farming for the mount (if its something along the lines of 200, which is reasonable) they shouldn't have bothered to put it there in the first place. No matter what, you will get people rushing mentor roulette in order to grind for it.

I have about 4.5k dungeon runs and I've been playing since beta. Keep in mind, I have everything at 60, I farmed ponies back when they released, and currently farming birds (I don't pvp, if those count.). Only 4.5k with all that, and they expect 2k mentor roulettes in a decent time frame? I have pretty much given up hope on this mount even though I had really wanted it. I am not about to grind 2k mentor roulettes, and will just continue to do 1 or 2 a day.

[Chyro]

Change the achievement to:

Receive 1000 (or even 2000) Commendations in Mentor Roulette Duties.

-> Mentors have to actually be nice / helpful to work up to it. (or at the very least not be unfriendly / rushing)
-> Lower 'minimum amount of duties' required, since you can get multiple commendations a run

[Azper]

As soon as I found out how it was obtained I basically gave up hope of ever obtaining it. It's a nice mount and all, but the ends don't justify the means.

You can keep it, SE.