3.3 Hinderences

**Yukiko** · 06-09-2016 05:01 PM

Lets have a look at numbers, square enix have them and if it is needed they will nerf it, point!
Sidenote: Nidhogg is already called "Pugkiller" in public chat, thats not something "normal"

Edit: Suggestion - Stop the stupid onehit wipe mechanics *sigh*
I miss old days and can understand why players just quit frustrated beginning anew and anew... no recovery kills this game!

Edit2: One of the few bosses where you need "sprint"

**Corfish** · 06-12-2016 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Yukiko

Lets have a look at numbers, square enix have them and if it is needed they will nerf it, point!
Sidenote: Nidhogg is already called "Pugkiller" in public chat, thats not something "normal"

Edit: Suggestion - Stop the stupid onehit wipe mechanics *sigh*
I miss old days and can understand why players just quit frustrated beginning anew and anew... no recovery kills this game!

Edit2: One of the few bosses where you need "sprint"

What "old days"? Because in MY old days with this game there were plenty of one hit mechanics that would wipe the party.

Normally I am all for defending players who are not as good, but c'mon. It was almost offensive at one point at how easy the normal (Hard Mode I guess for most) dungeons and trials became.

Originally Posted by Yukiko

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I am hardly a hardcore player of this game. The only EX primal I have beaten so far is Bismarck. I haven't even set foot into Alex Savage yet. Yes, the Nidhogg fight gave me some trouble for a few wipes. But you know what people can do?

They can learn the patterns, they learn where to stand to minimize risk of getting hit by AoEs. They can learn to do better rotations. They can go and gear up if they simply can't improve in mechanics. They can find a group willing to carry them even. I know quite a few FCs who are willing to carry members through battles so long as they're not complete leeches.

Players have ways to make the fight easier. This fight has been out for ONE WEEK. If they can't clear it yet, they need to accept it and gear up a little bit, or learn the mechanics.

After the fight has been out for a while then people can start demanding nerfs instead of actually improving.

**Seraphix2407** · 06-12-2016 05:49 PM

Yuki, I said "casual". I'm pretty casual too, doesnt give me the right to sit back and act like its fine to do nothing. Last time I checked this is a mmo. If you dont wanna try your best, better play offline game.

**Yukiko** · 06-12-2016 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Corfish

What "old days"?

Who said i mean FFXIV? (You can ask Square Soft if it comes to "old days")
Your argumentation reminds me of Titan 1.x where we had huge LAG and mostly players with good ping argued with "learn the patterns" or "learn where to stand before the AoE happens"...

**Corfish** · 06-12-2016 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Yukiko

Who said i mean FFXIV ?
Your argumentation reminds me of Titan 1.x where we had huge LAG and mostly players with good ping argued with "learn the patterns" or "learn where to stand before the AoE happens"...

It's an MMO. It is impossible to completely remove the threat of lag and it is stupid to nerf a fight because some people have bad connections. That said, FFXIV has come a long way and it is much more lag free.

The fact is though, these people are almost definitely not dying because of lag. They're dying because they're not learning when to anticipate certain mechanics and thus can't move fast enough. Or they don't understand that the AoE indicators are basically worthless for determining if you were in or out of the AoE, and it's all about the cast bar.

**Yukiko** · 06-12-2016 06:00 PM

Thats the arrogant attitude what i have meant, thats exactly why community becomes toxic!
You think you know why they die, but in reality you know nothing because it can have MANY possibilities... fact.

**CrimsonThunder** · 06-09-2016 05:11 PM

Oh go away.

**Yasuhiro** · 06-09-2016 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Grimr

Does ozuma need to drop meteors??

I'd be upset if he didn't.

Meteor: Deals random damage to the entire party, with the possibility of dealing 9999 to all of them.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/O..._Fantasy_IX%29

**Spawnie** · 06-09-2016 05:42 PM

its really not that bad honestly i cleared it with a df group where only 1 person had experience.. he took 6-7 minutes to clearly explain the mechanics n what to do = cleared with no wipes since every1 listened.. fair enough healer had to lb3 but still :P

**Felis** · 06-09-2016 06:16 PM

It's the Step of Faith syndrom:
Nobody have time to learn mechanics, but enough time to demand nerfs

Originally Posted by Yukiko

Edit: Suggestion - Stop the stupid onehit wipe mechanics *sigh*
I miss old days and can understand why players just quit frustrated beginning anew and anew... no recovery kills this game!

One hit kills keep the mechanics intact 2 mainpatches later
People only have problems because suddenly they have to do mechanics instead of ignoring mechanics

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