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  1. 06-12-2016 06:01 PM #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Who said i mean FFXIV? (You can ask Square Soft if it comes to "old days")
    Your argumentation reminds me of Titan 1.x where we had huge LAG and mostly players with good ping argued with "learn the patterns" or "learn where to stand before the AoE happens"...
    Many old games had one shot mechanic, because it proves you need team work if there is not any, you dont even need to do anything.
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  2. 06-12-2016 06:02 PM #152
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    I dont know how people die? Last time i checked being in aoe 247kills you
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  3. 06-12-2016 06:05 PM #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Thats the arrogant attitude what i have meant, thats exactly why community becomes toxic!
    You think you know why they die, but in reality you know nothing because it can have MANY possibilities... fact.
    It CAN have many possibilities. And you know what? Only two (lag, and certain disabilities) are out of their control. And I highly doubt the vast majority of the players suffer from either of those.

    And don't get me wrong, I try my best to get them through mechanics. I try my best to help as much as I can and I'm never rude about it. But at some point you have to look at this game's general community and just admit to yourself, "Wow, most of these players kinda suck."
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  4. 06-12-2016 06:09 PM #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Many old games had one shot mechanic, because it proves you need team work if there is not any, you dont even need to do anything.
    Thats just not true!
    You have healers for a reason and many old games even tanks could fully heal if they learned the skills for it.
    The key in games was how long you need for a fight. When you are well prepared you could win within some minutes oneshotting even bossmonsters depending on leveldifference (if you like that gamestyle) but if not well prepared you could recover with permahealing or even reviving in each turn (we can compare turns/rounds with cooldown of ffxiv) but when doing so you cant damage the boss which cost you time! Some of the OPTIONAL bosses who are the hardest in those games and some even were the hardest ever made i have played for hours (hell, i even liked to play days against impossible bosses who you can not kill)! As Example Omega from FFVIII i liked most, still there are many others even on MMOs... Kingdom Hearts or Star Ocean... Neverwinter Nights or other D&D games... even tabletop or MUD games...

    Your argumentation with "you dont need to do anything then" is something i can not value high, sorry!
    Its just not what i have experienced...

    Quote Originally Posted by Corfish View Post
    It CAN have many possibilities. And you know what? Only two (lag, and certain disabilities) are out of their control. And I highly doubt the vast majority of the players suffer from either of those.
    And thats where you are wrong, all you see is how their character is acting on your side of the screen!
    You neither see how it looks on their screen, nor how it looks outside their screen - is he playing alone, with friends, with baby in hand or talking on phone... you know NOTHING... is the weather sunny or did a thunder strike near, is he shocked or sleepy... you know NOTHING...
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  5. 06-12-2016 06:12 PM #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    Many old games had one shot mechanic, because it proves you need team work if there is not any, you dont even need to do anything.
    Probably the first time I've ever seen someone say the "good old days" of gaming were easier than this game, usually they mean and want the opposite.
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  6. 06-12-2016 06:13 PM #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Probably the first time I've ever seen someone say the "good old days" of gaming were easier than this game, usually they mean and want the opposite.
    You mean i Said that? Sorry bit confused.
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  7. 06-12-2016 06:16 PM #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    You mean i Said that? Sorry bit confused.
    No no, was just using you in the quotes. Sorry for the confusion.
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  8. 06-12-2016 06:23 PM #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    No no, was just using you in the quotes. Sorry for the confusion.
    No worries
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    And thats where you are wrong, all you see is how their character is acting on your side of the screen!
    You neither see how it looks on their screen, nor how it looks outside their screen - is he playing alone, with friends, with baby in hand or talking on phone... you know NOTHING... is the weather sunny or did a thunder strike near, is he shocked or sleepy... you know NOTHING...
    Why they play and keep dieing to mechanics while talking on phones? while keep messing up on mechanics with baby in hands? why doing half-hearted dps while watching netflix? or talking to friends? tbh why go in to group content when you are asleep and can't even focus? are they expecting the other to carry them?
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  10. 06-12-2016 07:08 PM #160
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    Idk why people take care of their baby while playing. Wrong way to deal with things. Well bad priority.
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