Thread: 3.3 Hinderences

Originally Posted by Fynlar

I know by now it was a DPS problem.

The thing is, a lack of DPS in Antitower would not have caused you to wipe over and over.

And that speaks to arguably the poor tuning of Antitower. I know more than a few healers who complained because they barely had to pay attention to the tank's HP due to how easy the mobs were. "Bad DPS" should not be rewarded with even easier content. There comes a point where catering too heavily to the extreme casual crowd will cause a greater hindrance. Dungeons should, at the very least, make it so if you're not properly doing your rotation/hitting positionals, you will be in there for a while. That is, if you aren't in ilvl 240 gear.

The way I've looked at Nidhogg in particular is that he's effectively the final boss of Heavensward's story, which justifies the difficulty. In a game that encourages growth in player skill, we shouldn't be able to faceroll a boss of that status. I still stand by the opinion that Thordan's story fight was a misstep in that regard.

As for Mhach, I think the increase in difficulty is fine and people are just struggling to work through it, I recall World of Darkness being MUCH, MUCH worse at launch. As for Ozma specifically, people would have (and some still do) whined about the fact that Ozma of all encounters was a faceroll. Crying for nerfs on week 1 before giving the community time to settle into the mechanics and learn the ins and outs shows laziness and unwilling to adapt in a progression-based game. If a few weeks pass and people still find that it's absolutely unfair then you'll probably have a case, but until then just chillllllllllll.

Originally Posted by Fynlar

/shrug I usually tank this roulette, and I've had more than my fair share of near-deaths. Maybe not in the segments where you are forced to only fight 2-3 mobs at a time, but that's the case in nearly every dungeon. Other than that it did not feel any different from most other EX dungeons. I only used Antitower as a recent example.

Then either you had a bad healer or need to work on your own rotation. The only way Antitower should even come close to hurting is if you're barely making the ilvl check.

If they nerf niddhogg and New 24man raid because of "casuals" pretty much sum up how lazy and not caring most of players are in community. And people say people who try their best are assholes. Last time i checked leeching and doing nothing makes you one. Square finally did something right. The fights arent even that hard and people get info handed at them like cand, yet they wont listen.

Its strange... why do you look down on other players?
Someone says that the fight was not possible to win and you answer: "leecher", "casuals", "noob"...
Were you with him in that fight and do you know what was the problem?! Sure not.
You try to compare with your runs, but did your group have exact same gear and same jobs? Sure not.

The community doesnt become toxic because of content, its that stupid arrogant argumentation of some who think they are "better"...
Try to take what others say as fact and find solutions to help or fix it. Do not try to blame the other and say he is wrong!

White Knights... hm... why does Square Enix need them?
You are defending content but why do you need that?

There are MANY possibilities why a fight result in a wipe!
Who are you to judge that the one who said its not possible havnt given all he could?
Just because YOU cleared something, it does not mean all is fine as it is.

There is a lot that can improve the current fight without making it "easier"...
The Problem arnt even the mechanics, but its fact that we do not play a LAN game and ffxiv having a tight reaction based combat system...
I see MANY players running in right direction but not making it in time - oh, i forgot, they are all "casuals" /faceroll (or should i say: "Stop Trolling")

If someone suggest something most of the feedback is just "easier" or "harder" but thats as if we just have black and white!
You have to look at every possibilities and situations that can appear, stop your focus view and try to understand... thats all i beg!

Originally Posted by Yukiko

Who said i mean FFXIV? (You can ask Square Soft if it comes to "old days")
Your argumentation reminds me of Titan 1.x where we had huge LAG and mostly players with good ping argued with "learn the patterns" or "learn where to stand before the AoE happens"...

Many old games had one shot mechanic, because it proves you need team work if there is not any, you dont even need to do anything.

I dont know how people die? Last time i checked being in aoe 247kills you

Originally Posted by Yukiko

And thats where you are wrong, all you see is how their character is acting on your side of the screen!
You neither see how it looks on their screen, nor how it looks outside their screen - is he playing alone, with friends, with baby in hand or talking on phone... you know NOTHING... is the weather sunny or did a thunder strike near, is he shocked or sleepy... you know NOTHING...

Why they play and keep dieing to mechanics while talking on phones? while keep messing up on mechanics with baby in hands? why doing half-hearted dps while watching netflix? or talking to friends? tbh why go in to group content when you are asleep and can't even focus? are they expecting the other to carry them?