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  1. #111
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    Cold_Raven's Avatar
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    Cold Raven
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I don't want it nerfed either, it's fun

    But... asking for it not to be nerfed, getting likes or even asking for it to be nerfed, and getting likes... isn't going to make a difference.

    SE doesn't judge whether or not to nerf based on forum response.
    SE judges whether or not to nerf based on their metric for percentage of clears for that particular fight.

    "Storyline" content (easy stuff) will have a higher clear percentage metric.
    Expert dungeon/24-man raid "midcore" content (normal stuff) will have a lower clear percentage metric.
    EX fights and savage content (hard stuff) will have the lowest clear percentage metric.

    From there... it's all based on averages.

    SE will look at the average number of clears. If the average is way above their metric for that content... they will make it harder (next time). If the average is way below their metric for that content... they will nerf it.

    This is how they decide.
    Not by forum posts/likes/popularity.

    Now, this is how you help:

    If you want Weeping City to not be nerfed, the best thing you can do to affect this is to run the content and get a clear. Clear as much as you can, and help others clear.
    Enough clears... and no nerf.

    Not enough clears... nerf is inevitable.

    That's the only thing that will make them decide on whether or not to nerf... the percentage of clears in comparison to their metric.
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  2. #112
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Karis Angara
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    +1 for this, Weeping City is awesome just the way it is.
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  3. #113
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    KaitlanKela's Avatar
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    Kekela Kela
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Please don't nerf this raid! It will become easy enough as people get better gear and learn the mechanics. If you nerf it in advance, it will eventually become a faceroll like Void Ark and that would be a huge waste!
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  4. #114
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Toguro View Post
    Cuch had some respect difficulty-wise but the entire Weeping City has people unable to clear lol. Be it Forgull, Ozma, or... Hair girl
    It's true that Weeping City has more problematic fights but I think the general idea of them getting better with time holds up.

    I finally managed to clear last night. The first two bosses went much better than on my first attempt and the group was really patient with Ozma, working on it for nearly an hour.
    We managed to clear the last boss in only 2 attempts just a few minutes before maintenance started.

    I'm sure SE has a target number of players they want clearing this content and will adjust it in a few weeks if the target isn't being met. But I believe the player base can learn to manage these fights. In my opinion they aren't much worse than some of the other 24 man fights were at launch like Scylla and Cuchulainn, it just seems worse since there's more than 1 problematic fight in the instance.
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  5. #115
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    Hayward's Avatar
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    Hayward Timberwolf
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    People are just anticipating the inevitable nerf threads.
    What part are you stuck on?
    In fact, I've only just cleared it this morning before work. From what I've seen, I wouldn't think SE is thinking about making adjustments at this early stage. I am generally put off, though, by the sneering and condescending tones of those who appear to be putting themselves on a pedestal that is begging to be kicked out from under them.
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  6. #116
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    Erudito's Avatar
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    Alex Greaver
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Even though I have had nothing but bad experiences in the Weeping City, I agree that nerfs are not needed. I still haven't cleared it because other people still haven't Git Gud yet.
    If they actually nerf anything at all, just reduce damage from some attacks by a few short percents, that's it. Don't ruin the integrity of the Weeping City.

    But... the Weeping City had all the mechanic types in the game, like really, ALL of them. How are they gonna top it for the final 24-man raid of Heavensward???
    I sincerely hope they did not pour all their creativity juice into Weeping City.
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  7. #117
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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 63
    I've yet to beat it but I agree no need for nerfs. I got into a run that was about 84 minutes in and they were stuck on the orb of rage. In the end though we didn't finish not because it was hard but because people didn't listen, tried to push through or just didn't know.

    I knew nothing when I went in and got to it, someone did a quick explanation, I screwed up on..the..square part once and the bleeding.

    After that though we got it down to 10% and it was just screw ups. First was groups didn't move back to their spot, and then another time it was from people yelling at a tank and he just gave up.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 06-10-2016 at 12:17 AM.

  8. #118
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    It's going to get easier with better gear. Even when it's mechanically driven more than previous raids. I mean, look at ST right now, it's a joke.
    Anyone complaining it's too hard needs to simply step back, see the mechanics, and deal with dead weight until their gear cam compensate.

    I love it, please keep it as is.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  9. #119
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    Jamez82's Avatar
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    Jay'nes Alexander
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    It's not so much that I want it to be nerfed.

    I just want bad players to be better. XD
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  10. #120
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    PantslessPrince's Avatar
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    Viggo Sinata
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    DON'T YOU DARE NERF THIS. I WILL GET YOSHI P TO SPANK YOU.
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