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    Player Vackashken's Avatar
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    Vackashken Zuth
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Neither parties nor Plvling need to be nerfed down.
    Instantly bankrupted yourself there.
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    Fensfield's Avatar
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    Forra Descren
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 70
    As I've said a time or two, content ought be implemented equally for all levels. There should be just as much stuff to do early, mid, and 'end' game, all striving to be equally fun, for the simple reason that it answers power-leveling by having people deprive themselves of at least two thirds of the fun in order to get to one third faster.

    Combine that with a system that keeps the challenge in lower end content, like all dungeons having a hyper mode, or level syncing or something like that, and.. well.

    Although I do wish I wasn't ranking up so fast, I admit. I tend to meander through ranks as an aside from just.. doing stuff, and I still feel like the game's rushing me a little bit.
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    Last edited by Fensfield; 11-01-2011 at 07:07 PM.
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    Anyone who says pl'ing doesnt need to be nerfed is plain indenial. I mean pl'ing FFXI way ok w/e if someone wants to stand out there and cure you and your party for hours to get them lvls or because they cant find a decent healer ok i'll give you that but a party claiming mobs so a lvl 50 mrd or w/e runs in and kills 10+ mobs in a matter of secs is just flat out bad for gaming experience.
    I was in a party the other day with my thm and everything was going fine party was fun getting good exp and then someone says "hey my firend coming to pl us" so yea he got there started killing stuff exp chain +13 tons of exp but guess what? was boring as hell I left party and went about my day sorry but i dont play a game to stand there and just get instant lvls while on auto follow or standing afk. and now its like almost all parties I try to join are pl parties. i just ask if its pl now and if they say yes i just say {no thanks}
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    Payadopa's Avatar
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmore View Post
    Anyone who says pl'ing doesnt need to be nerfed is plain indenial. I mean pl'ing FFXI way ok w/e if someone wants to stand out there and cure you and your party for hours to get them lvls or because they cant find a decent healer ok i'll give you that but a party claiming mobs so a lvl 50 mrd or w/e runs in and kills 10+ mobs in a matter of secs is just flat out bad for gaming experience.
    I was in a party the other day with my thm and everything was going fine party was fun getting good exp and then someone says "hey my firend coming to pl us" so yea he got there started killing stuff exp chain +13 tons of exp but guess what? was boring as hell I left party and went about my day sorry but i dont play a game to stand there and just get instant lvls while on auto follow or standing afk. and now its like almost all parties I try to join are pl parties. i just ask if its pl now and if they say yes i just say {no thanks}
    Same here. I want at least a minimum of challenge in my game. Staring at a wall while being AFK isn't.
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    Davorok's Avatar
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    Davorok Byrmwilf
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Jericho View Post
    Either bring in the FFXI difficulty of leveling, or stop wasting resources on low level content. No reason to give low levels something to do if they're not going to be at that level very long.
    Not everyone powerlevels, not everyone joins grind parties. Low level content is for people like me who play for the story, the lore and the overall experience...not just for experience points.

    You have your Primal Battles and I have my side quests...There's room in Eorzea for both of us.
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    I'm new player came across from FFXI and I have to say the tone of people saying low level content is a waste is shocking to me. Any content low medium or high at all is a bonus not a negative, it is optional and it is fun for someone somewhere. Those people who want it gone to me are nothing more than selfish people who I would have nothing to do with in the game itself. So in one way I'm glad they shown their true colours and negative way of thinking because now I can avoid wasting time if ever bump into one in game.

    There needs to be more content for all sections from low, medium and high, the more the better in each. I recently even stated there needs to be a vast increase in quests for all levels and classes from beginning to end including things can do together.

    Imho if leveling is fast for people then nerf the hell out of PL parties and reduce the exp gained through general normal parties but you do not remove low level content just because some people choose to rush to level cap using PL and such. I think a MMO should take at least a few months to hit level cap and I plan on doing just that enjoying taking it slow. I will NOT take part in any PL or grind parties and I prefer to only party with regards to when I wish to see and explore a new zone or in desporate need of help to do a quest/leve or mission.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 11-02-2011 at 03:04 AM.

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    Anony Moose
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    I went back and did a lot of the low-rank-requirement stuff after being 50 and still found it pretty enjoyable. The point is to not exclude people who have nothing to do but grind from actually getting involved in the game.

    However, the point is by far excluded from the use. A lot of pretty nice filler gear comes out of that content - stuff I can use on any job I level up on in the future that'll serve well through however short or long it takes to get back up there again.

    Aaand it's fun? Kind of. That Shposhae key-grind was kind of a pain in the gobbiebags. The process of getting the silver keys to get the silver chest to give me a gold key to get the Haube out of the gold chest alone took about 5 hours. I imagine the mythril/electrum one would have taken a lot longer but I got lucky.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 11-02-2011 at 03:21 AM.
    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
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    Cichy's Avatar
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    Lucy Lestat
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    Hyperion
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I found Shposhae a good place to exp with a party, lots of mobs and stuff, good for few levels. Problem is party search system because it's hard to find people for this low level content.
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    Kopuno's Avatar
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    Rhizzae Cathedral
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 70
    I have a pretty good feeling that the next patch will nerf party xp, which in all honesty I can understand why. If they do, fine. If they don't, fine. Leveling is stupid fast, especially when there really isn't all that much to do at fifty. Hell, maybe 1-50 is so fast because 50-XX will be a ton slower. Perhaps, once you get your class to 50, you'll have to start leveling your Job. Who knows, I am interested in seeing how the game unfolds over the next year though.
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    Ace Aether
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Personally I prefer leveling in dungeon groups, with multiple bosses and actual drops that will make my character stronger over the grinding parties we have now.

    I feel the game should have:
    1) the option to level via quests if you want to solo.
    2) the option to level via grinding parties like we do now.
    3) the option to level via dungeons, with unique bosses and actual gear people will use.
    4) the option to power level a friend or LS mate if that's what they wish to do.

    Just because leveling to 50 doesn't take as long as you want it to, doesn't mean they should stop developing a nice set of dungeons people can move through on their way to 50. Also note that with each level cap increase the time spent leveling will increase.
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