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  1. #11
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    One of FFXIs biggest problems was lack of Low Level content.
    (1) get people some practice for real endgame content.
    (2) have FUN as you level up, rather than just boring tedious grinding.
    (3) MOST people who arn't playing now, have probably played another MMO before, and know they want to do something, other than sit in a spot, and kill the same enemies over and over.

    What you are suggesting is for a game maker to make an offline RPG, where u grind on slimes from Lv1-50, then FINALLY days later, get to do dungeons, and gain no exp from it.

    I tried to get friends to play FFXI, and because Tanaka refused to work on Low Lv content, most of them quit before reaching Lv20.

    Tanaka wanted to please those who are already playing, rather than bring in the people who arn't playing yet, or quit.

    I DO understand the need to have more content coming, but this game DOES need dungeons for the low levels. (Granted it SHOULD have been out by launch, this way resources are better spent elsewhere.) but this is a mistake that needs fixed, just as much as any other.

    I'm sorry for you, and for myself, since I would like to have more endgame content, but I also enjoy my friends playing with me.

    (Just to clarify, one of FFXIs BEST features, was NOT raising the Level cap. This way endgame content wasn't just ONE event, but every added event, since launch. Unlike WoW or something, where Raised Level caps made zones empty, and left you with the same 3 raids.)
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    There is no point to low level content. You can PL to 50 in a handful of days.

    Fantastic design. Way to shoot your own beleaguered game in the foot, SE.
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    Powerlevelling has little to do with it how fast I went 49-50 on leves solo. You might not like the suggestion but maybe XP parties need the nerf if you think it's too fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    There is no point to low level content. You can PL to 50 in a handful of days.

    Fantastic design. Way to shoot your own beleaguered game in the foot, SE.
    so you are going to PL me for days to 50? Thanks Sir! I never met a kind person like you are!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinumstorm View Post
    Low level content is incredibly important to retaining players. One of the reasons so many people quit is because they had nothing to do at low levels. While many people on this forum seem content to grind as "content" and as a character experience, the vast majority of MMO players are not content with that and want to have more engaging adventures and things that make the game an actual Final Fantasy experience.

    So to answer your question low level content isn't really all that important right now, but once 2.0 hits it will become incredibly important - if not the most important content aspect of 2.0.
    So very true.

    And yeah, pretty sure XP parties are going to get nerfed in 1.2
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    so you are going to PL me for days to 50? Thanks Sir! I never met a kind person like you are!
    I was being bitterly sarcastic - not justifying it. Its a killed a huge part of the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    Powerlevelling has little to do with it how fast I went 49-50 on leves solo. You might not like the suggestion but maybe XP parties need the nerf if you think it's too fast.
    PLing needs the nerf - not partying. Hell, maybe even partying needs a nerf. Either or its too fast and has in part killed a need to have low level content, killed a need to learn your job, killed the social aspect of grouping together.

    The ultra fast leveling in this game brings nothing but poison to the game.
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    Agreed the super fast lvling and pl'ing is in my eyes and a bunch of new players i've recently brought into the game from WoW none the less, one huge concern. i'm hearing alot of "If i wanted to fly to endgame super fast and sit there doing endgame, I'd stay playing WoW" and yea ive brought 8 ppl since 1.19 and 3 others pre 1.19 and its the same gripe from ALL of them. please SE fix this problem and give more things to do early game, with a longer lifespan of the early to mid game.
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    Oh gosh, I hate these kind of threads >.>'

    A lot of people are NOT at the lvl cap, they won't get there anytime soon, and guess why?
    Because they actually want to ENJOY low- and mid-level content!
    Neither parties nor Plvling need to be nerfed down.
    If you want to grind to rank 50 in two days, you are stupid. Sitting at 50, bored to death, is well-deserved in that case.

    Just because some idiots do it does not mean the whole community does it.
    And giving us the OPTION to lvl up that fast if we want to is something very important - it's called freedom of choice.
    That's something even people should get who are dumb enough to not think about the consequences

    Personally, I enjoy low- and mid-level content.
    My LS does, too.
    And I know many other players ingame who think the same.
    They are happy about the leveling curve, because it means you can get a lvlup fast if you notice you are still not strong enough to..beat Toto-Rak or whatever.
    But that's it. If you rush through, you forget about the most important part of a game: the way to the end, not the end itself.
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  9. #19
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    As I've said a time or two, content ought be implemented equally for all levels. There should be just as much stuff to do early, mid, and 'end' game, all striving to be equally fun, for the simple reason that it answers power-leveling by having people deprive themselves of at least two thirds of the fun in order to get to one third faster.

    Combine that with a system that keeps the challenge in lower end content, like all dungeons having a hyper mode, or level syncing or something like that, and.. well.

    Although I do wish I wasn't ranking up so fast, I admit. I tend to meander through ranks as an aside from just.. doing stuff, and I still feel like the game's rushing me a little bit.
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    Last edited by Fensfield; 11-01-2011 at 07:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Neither parties nor Plvling need to be nerfed down.
    Instantly bankrupted yourself there.
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