This needs to be fixed. Posting solutions too.

[Fouraces]

Each player has there own. It is instanced, and it is within a house in a ward. You can go in and out of the instance. Now lets bring that back a little. What item does every house have in front of it? A sign. That sign is used for buying selling a showing the owner of the property. It can be used for more. Think of the sign as a free company room door. Interacting with it if you chose that lot to be your player house would take you into your property a instanced lot. There would be a loading line in the entry way of the border of the property. Walking through that line would take you back outside to the normal ward. Out of the instance. Inside of you property. On the edges of the fence line invisible walls would have to be placed. The instance of the lot would be the size of that lot. You can use a decorated ward as a backdrop/skybox so you can still see everything. That way any players can freely pick their lot location and buy it.

[dashrem]

I'm fairly new, but there is only 1 reasonable solution. Allow for an infinite amount of instanced houses. How they handle the Wards is up to them. Randomize the names or just number them. Duplicate maps. It doesn't matter. 1 house per account, houses are account wide. FC houses can keep the current rules. It's not that complicated to decide what to do. I don't know about the programming or the server requirements.

If it's not doable, then remove the feature altogether. Everyone pays, everyone has a right to it the feature. I don't know how they do things in Japan, but in North America we don't bring enough cupcakes for only half the party. This is grade school shit.

Thanks

[Desfin]

If it's not doable, then remove the feature altogether. Everyone pays, everyone has a right to it the feature. I don't know how they do things in Japan, but in North America we don't bring enough cupcakes for only half the party. This is grade school shit.

Thanks

Well put, but Square has always been about their Japanese player base first and for most with almost everyone of their games, if the Japanese players are happy with Housing plots we won't have a fix/solution/BASIC INFORMATION for months if not years.

I've been trying too get a medium plot on my server for 2 years, but the only option right now is too try and find a lower populated server and pray that anything is available and that honestly isn't worth 20 bucks.

[Roegadyn_Bear]

Well put, but Square has always been about their Japanese player base first and for most with almost everyone of their games, if the Japanese players are happy with Housing plots we won't have a fix/solution/BASIC INFORMATION for months if not years.

This is the sad truth that I feel that most people are unaware of or refuse to acknowledge.

[Kosmos992k]

if the Japanese players are happy with Housing plots we won't have a fix/solution/BASIC INFORMATION for months if not years.

This is the sad truth that I feel that most people are unaware of or refuse to acknowledge.

No, it's borderline xenophobic nonsense (as is your reply), and is an over dramatic response to an annoying situation.

You chances a slim because the odds are like 720 out of 2mil on snagging a property.

Your math is so wrong, it discredits your argument. The number of plots per server is currently 2,232 (12 wards with 2 subdivisions each in 3 zones each with 31 plots; 12x2x3x31=2232) and not 720. I'm not aware of any server with an active population much larger than about 20, 000. IIRC there are 64 servers which translates to 142,848 possible housing plots available to the active subscription base. The last estimate of active players I can remember was far short of the total number of accounts and characters, i believe the number was about 600,000 active accounts, but it could be as many as a million or more, especially around patches. That means that there is approximatelty a 15%-25% chance that any given account could have a home. Of course things are more spread out than that and some servers morepopulous than others, but even on a crowded server you are still loking at greater than a 1 in 10 ratio of plots to active players.

Absolutely it's not enough yet, I agree, but please dom throw silly numbers up when debating easily quantified information.

Btw, the instanced apartments should add approximately 36,000 'housing' slots per server, and when the Ishgardian zone opens 744 more plots will be added, and another 12,000 or so apartment instances. That's asuming 512 instanced apartments per ward/subdivision. If it's only 256 each, the number of aparyment instances would be halved. Sti;l this will mean each server will ultimately have about 3,000 housing plots (assuming they add no more wards/subdivisions) and either 24,000 or 48,000 potential apartment instances.

[Roegadyn_Bear]

No, it's borderline xenophobic nonsense (as is your reply), and is an over dramatic response to an annoying situation.

Oh ho, really now?

Tell me why Au Ra got changed? Or why the Japanese player base got a region locked event all for themselves. Square-Enix would not be the first, nor last, Japanese game developer that does special events for their Japanese playerbase while excluding those of other regions.

Suppose it is far easier to label such statements pointing out what appears to be Japanese favoritism as xenophobia though, isn't it?

[Kosmos992k]

Oh ho, really now?

Tell me why Au Ra got changed? Or why the Japanese player base got a region locked event all for themselves. Square-Enix would not be the first, nor last, Japanese game developer that does special events for their Japanese playerbase while excluding those of other regions.

Suppose it is far easier to label such statements pointing out what appears to be Japanese favoritism as xenophobia though, isn't it?

Xenophobia is easy to spot, just as other forms of prejudice are. You are the one making distinctions and drawing conclusions based on assumption and distinction. This topic has been discussed before and many examples of SE responding directly to the NA and/or EU player community have been put forward. As is typical they were dismissed about as glibly as you dismiss the assessment of xenophobia by those wishing to portray SE as an entity that ignores it's non-japanese customers. Engaging in further debate is pointless, there are myriad examples of companies running special rpromotions in their home markets whether American, Japanese, German, British or whatever. Market specific promotions are not an indication of bias, unles you happen to fel entitled to everything anyone else has of course. But let's not bring entitlement into this yet, someone else may wantto have that fun.

[Eul]

if the Japanese players are happy with Housing plots we won't have a fix/solution/BASIC INFORMATION for months if not years.

I disagree with this. Some of my FC neighbor member pretty grumpy with how the house sold pretty fast by those reseller.

[Aylis]

I'm fairly new, but there is only 1 reasonable solution. Allow for an infinite amount of instanced houses. How they handle the Wards is up to them. Randomize the names or just number them. Duplicate maps. It doesn't matter. 1 house per account, houses are account wide. FC houses can keep the current rules. It's not that complicated to decide what to do. I don't know about the programming or the server requirements.

If it's not doable, then remove the feature altogether.

Thanks

They mentioned a long time ago the reason they can't do infinite wards id due to something about how outside decorations and customizations being fully rendered and loaded into memory always and forever. A very big system flaw and something that looks good maybe on paper but simply doesn't work for the long time.

I do agree here, any "fix" they try to do is always going to just make people mad anyway. It's just time for the devs to admit they screwed up multiple times, scorch earth all of housing, offer players who either own houses or personal rooms some compensation and rebuild the features systems from scratch.

[Noshpan]

I wish that they had done housing along the same means that EverQuest 2 does housing. But, from what I gather, the hardware (and quite possibly the software) can't handle that much instancing. Which is why I didn't even bother making an attempt at effort to save up for a small plot. No chance in hell can I compete with the Housing Mafia.

As to those suggesting 1 house per account: not everyone has their characters (or the majority of their characters) on the same server. I have 8 characters and each of them are on a separate server. Though, for those whom have multiple characters on a single server, I can understand a restriction of 1 house per server.