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  1. #21
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    Jpec07's Avatar
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    It's the sour grapes crowd, if someone in this thread identifies in that crowd, that's their business. But seriously, players engaging in property speculation do so at their own risk. Their tears should not be considered by SE when deciding a policy for multi-plot ownership.
    100,000% this

    Buying and selling property in this fashion is against the rules. They've clarified this, and are acting accordingly. If someone gets screwed over because they broke the rules, the onus of responsibility is on them.

    Should SE introduce a system that automatically scales the amount of plots available to match player demand so that anyone can buy an empty plot at list price? Yes they should, and it would evaporate the problem of housing speculation entirely (and wouldn't be that hard to code). But for whatever reason, they haven't. When we sign up to play this game, we agree to do so according to the rules they've set forth--rules that encourage fairness to other players. So if, when someone acts against the heart of those rules, they get burned, it's tough luck for them.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    It's the sour grapes crowd, if someone in this thread identifies in that crowd, that's their business. But seriously, players engaging in property speculation do so at their own risk. Their tears should not be considered by SE when deciding a policy for multi-plot ownership.
    I figured it was the crowd that didn't get their way and were throwing a temper tantrum.

    I'm personally part of the fermented grapes crowd.
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  3. #23
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Let's report them so they'll get a slap on their hand.
    Even if they're not banned. They may have their house(s) taken. And that's all that matters.
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  4. #24
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    I'm not even complaining...i'm just saying. You're unlikely to get anyone to relinquish their house at a loss.
    If they do gardening right then there will be no loss
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Even if they're not banned. They may have their house(s) taken. And that's all that matters.
    I don't think so.

    I have reported a bunch of rude people who said racist words to me, including the N word and slurs for Latinos (even though I'm not black and not hispanic). GM came to talk to me and said that they're taking these stuffs seriously.

    Then I kept refreshing on their lodestone profile and I saw them changing job and equipment, that means they didn't get banned even for a day.
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  6. #26
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    Pretty much this.....people have it in their heads that by stopping the plot selling, that they will somehow have a chance at a house. You have a better chance at buying a house if you give in to the sellers...as crappy as that is...but if you make it so they won't want to sell it, they will likely sit on it. They aren't going to be like "Oh my plan has been foiled....I guess I'll give up this plot for free and move on!" Trust me...If I owned a plot with intent to sell, and I could no longer profit off of it, I'm going to sit on it and make some kind of use out of it.
    That holds true only for the plots they already have. It can, however, discourage the practice from continuing. Ban (well, temporarily suspend, at the very least give a warning to) enough of the people who buy up these houses in order to price-gouge other players, and the next time more housing gets released players might think twice before trying to hoard it like that.

    So if you want the release of Ishgard apartments and housing wards to go more smoothly than these last few housing releases, then report anybody you see abusing the system.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 06-08-2016 at 06:16 AM.

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    You're only stopping the people dumb/ignorant enough to advertise selling in game. Many sales are being coordinated on external forums.
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  8. #28
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Personally, the sour grapes crowd who are saying that if they were sitting on a plot they could no longer resell, they'd make some use out of it are just crying in their beer. To them I say, "Man up, relinquish the plot, admit that your gaming of the system isn't on and move on".
    To be fair, both sides of this argument are "sour grapes". The selfish people buying just to resell are ruining it for everyone, just as much as the people reporting innocent people that are relinquishing for a valid reason (server move etc, and not asking for an exorbitant amount) are just as guilty. The people mass reporting without prejudice are simply jealous that someone else has a shiny they want that they couldn't get. so to those people, I say "Man up, wait until you get lucky or buy from an honest seller. Admit that you people are only reporting some of these people out of malice and spite, not because you ACTUALLY think it is wrong."
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