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    odie's Avatar
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    Aishwarya Vaishnavi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The more reports they get, the larger the issue becomes and the more likely a definitive response from SE is. Personally, the sour grapes crowd who are saying that if they were sitting on a plot they could no longer resell, they'd make some use out of it are just crying in their beer. To them I say, "Man up, relinquish the plot, admit that your gaming of the system isn't on and move on".
    I'm not even complaining...i'm just saying. You're unlikely to get anyone to relinquish their house at a loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    the sour grapes crowd who are saying that if they were sitting on a plot they could no longer resell
    Oh, that's the sour grapes crowd... I thought it was someone else in the scenario, and specifically this thread.
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Personally, the sour grapes crowd who are saying that if they were sitting on a plot they could no longer resell, they'd make some use out of it are just crying in their beer. To them I say, "Man up, relinquish the plot, admit that your gaming of the system isn't on and move on".
    To be fair, both sides of this argument are "sour grapes". The selfish people buying just to resell are ruining it for everyone, just as much as the people reporting innocent people that are relinquishing for a valid reason (server move etc, and not asking for an exorbitant amount) are just as guilty. The people mass reporting without prejudice are simply jealous that someone else has a shiny they want that they couldn't get. so to those people, I say "Man up, wait until you get lucky or buy from an honest seller. Admit that you people are only reporting some of these people out of malice and spite, not because you ACTUALLY think it is wrong."
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    Quote Originally Posted by HReincarnate View Post
    You know that they just get a warning, or if they'd been warned before a suspension, right? The GMs don't reverse transactions and take away houses. You might scare people who get caught from doing the same thing again but no plots will be freed up.
    a warning is better than nothing
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Let's report them so they'll get a slap on their hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Let's report them so they'll get a slap on their hand.
    Even if they're not banned. They may have their house(s) taken. And that's all that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Even if they're not banned. They may have their house(s) taken. And that's all that matters.
    I don't think so.

    I have reported a bunch of rude people who said racist words to me, including the N word and slurs for Latinos (even though I'm not black and not hispanic). GM came to talk to me and said that they're taking these stuffs seriously.

    Then I kept refreshing on their lodestone profile and I saw them changing job and equipment, that means they didn't get banned even for a day.
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    Saori Kobayashi
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    It is funny how weak SE is on keeping their ToS in place. I mean no wonder there are still gilseller and idiots who buy gil. They need to be way harsher in enforcing their rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazza2003 View Post
    It is funny how weak SE is on keeping their ToS in place. I mean no wonder there are still gilseller and idiots who buy gil. They need to be way harsher in enforcing their rules.
    They have to be careful how they wield the ban hammer though. We know that RMT is bad...but SE themselves (other than the ToS that a majority of players won't read) don't exactly make it clear. You get hit with gil selling messages within the very first cutscene starting the game, and a player that doesn't know anyone could be like..."hey yeah, that sounds good. I'll do that" and then they end up banning a good number of players. We ourselves don't know how many people are buying gil. But it must be enough people to hurt the game if they are banned outright if the RMT are still very much alive within the game.
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    Pretty much this.....people have it in their heads that by stopping the plot selling, that they will somehow have a chance at a house. You have a better chance at buying a house if you give in to the sellers...as crappy as that is...but if you make it so they won't want to sell it, they will likely sit on it. They aren't going to be like "Oh my plan has been foiled....I guess I'll give up this plot for free and move on!" Trust me...If I owned a plot with intent to sell, and I could no longer profit off of it, I'm going to sit on it and make some kind of use out of it.
    That holds true only for the plots they already have. It can, however, discourage the practice from continuing. Ban (well, temporarily suspend, at the very least give a warning to) enough of the people who buy up these houses in order to price-gouge other players, and the next time more housing gets released players might think twice before trying to hoard it like that.

    So if you want the release of Ishgard apartments and housing wards to go more smoothly than these last few housing releases, then report anybody you see abusing the system.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 06-08-2016 at 06:16 AM.

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