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    NellMoshroca's Avatar
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    Nell Moshroca
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    3.3 Anima Relic Stats

    I'm going for the Dark Knight one and wondering how much it matters which I go for first.
    Skill speed, parry, accuracy, critical hit rate or determination.
    Anyone more familiar with how stats work have any tips?
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    Warin Holt
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Crit Det then Accuracy.
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    Ire Works
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    It doesn't matter what stat you go for first, you don't get the weapon until you cap it out. Go for crit, then det, then SS. If you're i230, you've probably already hit the accuracy cap for this raid tier. Parry is trash, don't bother with it.
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    My Pally is going Parry, Piety, and Spell Speed.

    /s
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    Evad D'aragon
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    I've noticed that, for some reason, the cap at 240 for DET is slightly lower, so if us PLDs expected to put CRIT, then DET, and think it's fine, we're going to be missing like a few points that we'll put on a "third stat" regardless. Hahaha.

    I think I'll cap CRIT for sure, but maybe I'll split DET and ACC evenly. I still have quite a bit of time to think about it.
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    Februs Harrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evaddaragon View Post
    I've noticed that, for some reason, the cap at 240 for DET is slightly lower, so if us PLDs expected to put CRIT, then DET, and think it's fine, we're going to be missing like a few points that we'll put on a "third stat" regardless. Hahaha.

    I think I'll cap CRIT for sure, but maybe I'll split DET and ACC evenly. I still have quite a bit of time to think about it.
    I haven't taken a look at it myself yet, but usually Pld stat allocation gets a little wonnky because it's being divided across the sword and shield instead of just one weapon.

    I'm not sure Acc is even necessary. Most times the end game gear provides more than enough to reach cap without needing extra on your weapons. I haven't confirmed the numbers yet, but you'll probably be better off with skill speed instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    I haven't taken a look at it myself yet, but usually Pld stat allocation gets a little wonnky because it's being divided across the sword and shield instead of just one weapon.

    I'm not sure Acc is even necessary. Most times the end game gear provides more than enough to reach cap without needing extra on your weapons. I haven't confirmed the numbers yet, but you'll probably be better off with skill speed instead.
    Yarp. The i240 relic is the very first weapon implemented since Heavensward that can contain Accuracy. This was a deliberate design decision:

    A: First, we removed the accuracy stat from the weapons that were added in Patch 3.0, and we plan to maintain this plan through the 3.x patch series. Up until now, even when obtaining a weapon that had a high item level, if you needed a certain amount of accuracy and this new weapon didn’t fulfill that requirement, you couldn't use it. Since there were many cases like this, we've chosen not to add accuracy to weapons. Furthermore, we've reduced the accuracy required to hit enemies to encourage players to equip higher item level weapons. We don't plan on adding accuracy to weapons in the future.
    Since Accuracy was removed from weapons, there is now a surplus of it on body gear. Tanks, for example, can go a clean 300+ over the (AS2-4) cap if they focus the stat enough... and that's before materia! That's a lot of wiggle room. I believe that the only players who may consider Accuracy on their weapon as being ideal are healers.
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Since Accuracy was removed from weapons, there is now a surplus of it on body gear. Tanks, for example, can go a clean 300+ over the (AS2-4) cap if they focus the stat enough... and that's before materia! That's a lot of wiggle room. I believe that the only players who may consider Accuracy on their weapon as being ideal are healers.
    This is an...

    ...accurate assessment.

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    Dro Frehter
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    Just the thread I was looking for! For my warrior anima, would you other Warriors suggest Determination and Crit Hit?
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    Player
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    Hum. Well... I think 120 Crit 115 Det 5 SkS may be the way to go for WAR relics. I would suggest more Skill Speed but this tier seems to give more than enough of the stat for that 9 hit zerk. You could add more if you want in case the next tier has less Skill Speed on BiS pieces.
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